Friendly Fire

Patrick_Hillary · 03-16-11, 08:56 PM

.*.I've just started a new career cause my save got wiped. So I'm patroling around Wake trying to intercept the invasion force 0n the 28th when i contact the enemy Task Force steaming south toward the Marshals, persumably job done. I'm shadowing a Task Force of three of the four stack light cruisers, one cruiser auxillary, two freighters, four destroyers and around four subchasers. I shadow at around 10,000 yards when the group turn toward me. I see signal lamps flashing so I dive, the enemy course will give me a solution, I believe. Three of the subchasers, with searchlights beaming converge on my last surface position and begin a blind depth charge attack. As I close in on the freighters, which I have been ordered to engage after reporting the convoy I see that one of the subchasers has blown up and is sinking. I assume that he has run over another boats pattern. He sinks and I get no credit nor does it appear on the skippers log..I'm wondering if anyone knows wheather subchasers have asdic, as there is no pinging or if anyone has seen a collision or another friendly fire incident. Fettes Boote Kammeraden.

Patrick_Hillary · 03-16-11, 11:11 PM

Fired 2 @ Freighter#1...Fired 1 @ Submarinetender/Light Cruiser...Fired 1 @Freighter#2...On hydrophone 1 dud, 1 miss, two hits, results not observed due to heavy escort presence. No ships sunk. I believe that the depth charges on the Corvette's stern may have been a sympathic detonation due to its close proximity to the other Corvette's pattern...In reality would the skipper be able to claim the sinking of a ship in those circumstances?

rein1705 · 03-17-11, 03:01 AM

Panic and unexperenced crew on there part? i believe that the DDE's had proper Sonar sets.

Dogfish40 · 03-17-11, 11:20 AM

Closing in on a convoy off the east coast of Celebes, two Carriers W three DD's on the port side of the convoy, Two on the Starboard side, One in front and rear. Multiple cruisers and some freightors or tankers. On approach, see a ship onfire from periscope (as it's still dark, easy to see) and a ship sunk icon (grey) appears. They evidently lost one of their DD's on a Zig. Too bad...Tooo Bad...
Oh well, that's one less for me to worry about...
Good Hunting.
D40
Yes, PS: There are going to be many times where you will see ships colliding (friendly as well), I've also seen a friendly merchant get bombed by a betty and there was nothing I could do to help, and a lot of IJN DD's that seem to have bad accidents. As mentioned above, no credit. The only time you get credit is from a direct action on your part.

WernherVonTrapp · 03-17-11, 11:35 AM

AFAIK, you'll only get credit if a ship sinks as a result of your action. If a ship sinks for any other reason (storm, collision, fratricide, scuttling, etc.) you don't get credit.

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 03-20-11, 08:19 AM

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AFAIK, you'll only get credit if a ship sinks as a result of your action. If a ship sinks for any other reason (storm, collision, fratricide, scuttling, etc.) you don't get credit.

That's right. Even if you mod your sub to go 200 knots per hour and make it have enough armor to take the collision of ramming with that speed (like I did....) you won't get the credit of the kill. Though if you ram without modding and manage to sink anything you'll get the credit.. I don't know how it's measured when I sink it or when it sinks itself..

torpedobait · 03-20-11, 08:56 AM

Dogfish, I attacked a convoy in an earlier life/career (can't remember where I was or when) and in the ensuing melee, when everyone was dashing here and there trying to get away, I saw a Nagata Maru crush an escort by running dead into it amidships! The DD was on its side being shoved sideways, and the freighter looked like an angry dog with a big bone in its mouth. The DD eventually rolled under the Nagata and sank, while the Nagata went on its merry way! I LOVE this game!!!

03-17-11, 03:01 AM	#3
rein1705 Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: somewhere in the Past. Posts: 582 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 0	Panic and unexperenced crew on there part? i believe that the DDE's had proper Sonar sets. __________________ "Diesel Pig" Not so long ago...

03-17-11, 11:20 AM	#4
Dogfish40 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: LA Area, Central coast, California Posts: 1,023 Downloads: 827 Uploads: 0	Closing in on a convoy off the east coast of Celebes, two Carriers W three DD's on the port side of the convoy, Two on the Starboard side, One in front and rear. Multiple cruisers and some freightors or tankers. On approach, see a ship onfire from periscope (as it's still dark, easy to see) and a ship sunk icon (grey) appears. They evidently lost one of their DD's on a Zig. Too bad...Tooo Bad... Oh well, that's one less for me to worry about... Good Hunting. D40 Yes, PS: There are going to be many times where you will see ships colliding (friendly as well), I've also seen a friendly merchant get bombed by a betty and there was nothing I could do to help, and a lot of IJN DD's that seem to have bad accidents. As mentioned above, no credit. The only time you get credit is from a direct action on your part. __________________ *Dogfish40* Last edited by Dogfish40; 03-17-11 at 12:26 PM.

03-17-11, 11:35 AM	#5
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	AFAIK, you'll only get credit if a ship sinks as a result of your action. If a ship sinks for any other reason (storm, collision, fratricide, scuttling, etc.) you don't get credit. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

03-20-11, 08:56 AM	#7
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,073 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	Dogfish, I attacked a convoy in an earlier life/career (can't remember where I was or when) and in the ensuing melee, when everyone was dashing here and there trying to get away, I saw a Nagata Maru crush an escort by running dead into it amidships! The DD was on its side being shoved sideways, and the freighter looked like an angry dog with a big bone in its mouth. The DD eventually rolled under the Nagata and sank, while the Nagata went on its merry way! I LOVE this game!!! __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

03-16-11, 08:56 PM	#1
Patrick_Hillary Watch Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 20 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Friendly Fire .*.I've just started a new career cause my save got wiped. So I'm patroling around Wake trying to intercept the invasion force 0n the 28th when i contact the enemy Task Force steaming south toward the Marshals, persumably job done. I'm shadowing a Task Force of three of the four stack light cruisers, one cruiser auxillary, two freighters, four destroyers and around four subchasers. I shadow at around 10,000 yards when the group turn toward me. I see signal lamps flashing so I dive, the enemy course will give me a solution, I believe. Three of the subchasers, with searchlights beaming converge on my last surface position and begin a blind depth charge attack. As I close in on the freighters, which I have been ordered to engage after reporting the convoy I see that one of the subchasers has blown up and is sinking. I assume that he has run over another boats pattern. He sinks and I get no credit nor does it appear on the skippers log..I'm wondering if anyone knows wheather subchasers have asdic, as there is no pinging or if anyone has seen a collision or another friendly fire incident. Fettes Boote Kammeraden.

03-16-11, 11:11 PM	#2
Patrick_Hillary Watch Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 20 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Damn the torpedoes... Fired 2 @ Freighter#1...Fired 1 @ Submarinetender/Light Cruiser...Fired 1 @Freighter#2...On hydrophone 1 dud, 1 miss, two hits, results not observed due to heavy escort presence. No ships sunk. I believe that the depth charges on the Corvette's stern may have been a sympathic detonation due to its close proximity to the other Corvette's pattern...In reality would the skipper be able to claim the sinking of a ship in those circumstances?