Drrrrrrumbeat!

Bakkels · 02-12-11, 07:21 AM

Hey there

Got a quick question about operation drumbeat. I know it is scripted in there somewhere, but in the mission editor I can't really find it. According to wikipedia it starts in january 1942, but I have more faith in the knowledge of you guys (and girls) here. So what day does it start exactly? Which American harbors where attacked in that operation?
I guess what I want to find out is, how do I get in on the action?? Thanks.
(or if you know an exact date for the start of the operation in SH3 GWX, maybe then I can look it up in the mission editor)

*edit* I just came across the 'sh3Gen' mod. Will it point me in the right direction or even give me orders when Drumbeat starts?

Thanks!

raymond6751 · 02-12-11, 07:36 AM

Drumbeat, for real, was not an attack on harbors. It was an attack on the shipping running along the US coast. The initial boats were stationed to begin with off ports, like New York, but did not enter them.

Good luck with yours.

STEED · 02-12-11, 08:59 AM

America was all but in name at war with Germany by Oct41 by extended their neutral zone. Just get stuck in now as I do against any Warships and Tankers that you see, but if you must do it by the book, Hitler declares war on America December 11th 1941 and Drumbeat started January 13th 1942

Sailor Steve · 02-12-11, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Hey there

Hey yourself!

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Got a quick question about operation drumbeat. I know it is scripted in there somewhere, but in the mission editor I can't really find it.

Drumbeat is all those huge amounts of ships and convoys all over the American coast, but, as raymond6751 pointed out, mainly the massive number around New York.

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Which American harbors where attacked in that operation?

None.

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I guess what I want to find out is, how do I get in on the action?? Thanks.

Take a Type IX boat, and there's a chance you will actually be assigned there. Or use SH3 Commander and assign yourself to the proper patrol grid.

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(or if you know an exact date for the start of the operation in SH3 GWX, maybe then I can look it up in the mission editor)

Wiki's, and Steed's, numbers are correct.

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*edit* I just came across the 'sh3Gen' mod. Will it point me in the right direction or even give me orders when Drumbeat starts?

SH3 Gen looks at the current map and tells you what assets are where. You can set it to tell you everything, which is a simple cheat, or you can set it to give you some info when you ask, and for some of that to be wrong. Lots of fun.

gazpode_l · 02-12-11, 12:11 PM

I thought you could play drumbeat as a single player mission

Sailor Steve · 02-12-11, 09:02 PM

I think there is one, but where is the fun in Single Missions?

Gargamel · 02-13-11, 01:19 AM

Drumbeat would be weird as a single mission IMO, as it was basically the uboatwaffe's operations off the American coast over a 6-8 month period before they could really get convoying going. It wasn't just a single scenario, but more of a mini-campaign of it's own.

Damo · 02-13-11, 02:37 AM

I read up on Drumbeat a while back and the presence of U-Boats off the US coast was such an unexpected turn of events they were completely caught off guard. There are many eyewitness reports of people on the coast of America seeing ships getting hit by U-Boats, which means in the opening days and weeks, they operated very close to land with relative impunity.

I've yet to take part in Drumbeat as this is only my second IX career compared to 4 VII and 2 Type II, the first one ended west of Gibraltar in September 1940 after I got truly massacred by a convoy's escorts. I escaped, but due to Longer repair times mod and the sheer amount of damage I eventually abandoned the boat west of Portugal due to overwhelming flooding 2 days later. I should have headed to the milkcow NW of Gibraltar but I underestimated the extent of the damage and overestimated my crew's ability to fix it...

I'm currently celebrating New Year 1941 in port so yeh, America here I come soon!!

Jimbuna · 02-13-11, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gazpode_l

I thought you could play drumbeat as a single player mission

There is indeed a single mission in GWX entitled 'Operation Drumbeat' but I'd recommend you try another single mission in that area also, the one I created entitled 'Early Christmas'.

After those two I'd seriously recommend you start a career in the area.

Bakkels · 02-14-11, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I think there is one, but where is the fun in Single Missions?

Exactly

I only play career, much more immersive than single missions.
I don't know how I came up with U-boats attacking US harbors

But anyway, I'm using SH3gen to give me some info, and some of it wrong. Really cool mod if you use it like that!
I already have a IX so I'm hoping they'll assign me to the operation. I wouldn't really like to have to assign myself to a grid.. Takes away from the realism a bit. So I'll have to keep my fingers crossed..
Thanks for the info!

02-12-11, 07:21 AM	#1
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	Drrrrrrumbeat! Hey there Got a quick question about operation drumbeat. I know it is scripted in there somewhere, but in the mission editor I can't really find it. According to wikipedia it starts in january 1942, but I have more faith in the knowledge of you guys (and girls) here. So what day does it start exactly? Which American harbors where attacked in that operation? I guess what I want to find out is, how do I get in on the action?? Thanks. (or if you know an exact date for the start of the operation in SH3 GWX, maybe then I can look it up in the mission editor) edit I just came across the 'sh3Gen' mod. Will it point me in the right direction or even give me orders when Drumbeat starts? Thanks! Last edited by Bakkels; 02-12-11 at 07:31 AM.

02-12-11, 07:36 AM	#2
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Some info Drumbeat, for real, was not an attack on harbors. It was an attack on the shipping running along the US coast. The initial boats were stationed to begin with off ports, like New York, but did not enter them. Good luck with yours. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

02-12-11, 08:59 AM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	America was all but in name at war with Germany by Oct41 by extended their neutral zone. Just get stuck in now as I do against any Warships and Tankers that you see, but if you must do it by the book, Hitler declares war on America December 11th 1941 and Drumbeat started January 13th 1942 __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-12-11, 09:02 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I think there is one, but where is the fun in Single Missions? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-13-11, 01:19 AM	#7
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Drumbeat would be weird as a single mission IMO, as it was basically the uboatwaffe's operations off the American coast over a 6-8 month period before they could really get convoying going. It wasn't just a single scenario, but more of a mini-campaign of it's own. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

02-12-11, 12:11 PM	#5
gazpode_l 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 280 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I thought you could play drumbeat as a single player mission

02-13-11, 02:37 AM	#8
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	I read up on Drumbeat a while back and the presence of U-Boats off the US coast was such an unexpected turn of events they were completely caught off guard. There are many eyewitness reports of people on the coast of America seeing ships getting hit by U-Boats, which means in the opening days and weeks, they operated very close to land with relative impunity. I've yet to take part in Drumbeat as this is only my second IX career compared to 4 VII and 2 Type II, the first one ended west of Gibraltar in September 1940 after I got truly massacred by a convoy's escorts. I escaped, but due to Longer repair times mod and the sheer amount of damage I eventually abandoned the boat west of Portugal due to overwhelming flooding 2 days later. I should have headed to the milkcow NW of Gibraltar but I underestimated the extent of the damage and overestimated my crew's ability to fix it... I'm currently celebrating New Year 1941 in port so yeh, America here I come soon!! __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.