TMO vs FOTRS?

Pappy55 · 01-31-11, 03:24 PM

I have both mods downloaded but I currently run TMO for my first patrol with this campaign.

Which do you prefer and why?

Looking for a good balance of realism and game play..

WernherVonTrapp · 01-31-11, 04:37 PM

I prefer TMO because it's better.

Ducimus · 01-31-11, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

I prefer TMO because it's better.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say its just different. How i don't know, but i do know FOTRS was originally based on an earlier version of TMO. The AOTD guys built upon that, and (I think) went in their own direction, adding new ships and what not, that don't exist in TMO. I didn't add to much in the way of new units. I tended to focus on the "big picture" stuff or systemic issues, so units with new 3d models escaped me entirely.

Sailor Steve · 01-31-11, 05:34 PM

The best answer is to get Multi-SH4 and install both. Either you will like one better or you'll end up switching back and forth a lot.

Ducimus · 01-31-11, 05:43 PM

For me, the answer of "which mod" has always been very simple.

Sailor Steve · 01-31-11, 06:12 PM

Well gee, I wonder why?

I'm goin' down · 01-31-11, 08:53 PM

Personally, I wouldn't listen to Ducimus. It is clear that he has no idea what he is talking about.

Ducimus · 01-31-11, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

Personally, I wouldn't listen to Ducimus.

That is the best advice you could give anybody on subsim.

WernherVonTrapp · 01-31-11, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I wouldn't say that. I'd say its just different.

Yeah, you're right. I've never actually played FOTRS so, couldn't make a comparison. I was just in a wisenheimer mood. I get that way once in a while.

I am thoroughly enjoying TMO though. Thanks for all the work you've put into it.

I've wanted to try FOTRS but have been a bit reluctant based on a number of posts I've read (over time) that complain about it being buggy.

I'm goin' down · 01-31-11, 11:07 PM

Buggy? That may be an unwarranted critisism. But, I haven't played it for a LONG time. It had terrific grahpics.

TMO's graphics are very good too.

Big difference: capabilities of TMO's dds to locate and sink a sub are SCARY GOOD, and I am talking Halloween Scary.

Hylander_1314 · 02-01-11, 07:10 PM

TMO has been my mod of choice for quite some time, but finally for the first time, I am trying out FOTRS just to see how it is. I like the addition of a greater list of ships to shoot at. Merchants and warships both. As for it being buggy, I haven't had one issue as of yet. The issues they probably had at first was the addition of the ships that they have incorporated.

Other than the ships added, I find it to be very similar to TMO in gameplay, and all around enjoyment. And yes it is inspired and based on an earlier version of TMO.

I think they also activated Midway, and Guam as sub bases. Midway is nice for early war ops, and Guam is nice in the late war period for quicker times into the combat areas.

WernherVonTrapp · 02-03-11, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

As for it being buggy, I haven't had one issue as of yet. The issues they probably had at first was the addition of the ships that they have incorporated.

Thanks. I think (therefore) that I will give it a go, if I live to see the light of day after TMO. If the DDs don't get me, a coronary will.

I probably shouldn't have paid much as much attention to the contrary critics of FOTRS. I'd be better off loading it up and judging for myself.

Hylander_1314 · 02-03-11, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Thanks. I think (therefore) that I will give it a go, if I live to see the light of day after TMO. If the DDs don't get me, a coronary will.

I probably shouldn't have paid much as much attention to the contrary critics of FOTRS. I'd be better off loading it up and judging for myself.

Yes, that is always the best policy. Same thing goes for TMO too. What I did find, is that if it did get buggy per say, it was because of mod conflicts. So the only thing I add to TMO, or FOTRS is the music mods for the radio, and I use the Radio Manager by Digital Trucker, some skins for the fleetboats, by FUBAR (I think) with conning tower art for different boats, and that's about it. Oh, and the pre Pearl Harbor start mod. So far that has worked the best.

After TMO 1.9 and Ducimus' warning about using enviornmental mods and other stuff, that can cause issues with the crew and visibility issues, I have heeded his warnings, and have had very enjoyable gameplay.

Also, FOTRS is going to be getting some new ships, and reworked models for some ships, and a reworked KI-84 from what it looks like so far. So like Ducimus did with TMO, they ae refining FOTRS likewise.

Sailor Steve · 02-03-11, 08:44 PM

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per say

Alky · 02-03-11, 09:02 PM

I found one bug while playing FOTRS, it may not be the mods bug but it's the only place I've seen it. While sitting quietly in a harbor and waiting to get a torp off on a mechant, there was a DD cruising back & forth, problem was he was going backwards. His wake off the bow and stern was correct for going forward, howver the ship was actually moving in reverse

01-31-11, 03:24 PM	#1
Pappy55 Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 211 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 0	TMO vs FOTRS? I have both mods downloaded but I currently run TMO for my first patrol with this campaign. Which do you prefer and why? Looking for a good balance of realism and game play.. __________________

01-31-11, 04:37 PM	#2
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I prefer TMO because it's better. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

01-31-11, 05:34 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The best answer is to get Multi-SH4 and install both. Either you will like one better or you'll end up switching back and forth a lot. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-31-11, 06:12 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well gee, I wonder why? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-31-11, 11:07 PM	#10
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	FOTRS Buggy? That may be an unwarranted critisism. But, I haven't played it for a LONG time. It had terrific grahpics. TMO's graphics are very good too. Big difference: capabilities of TMO's dds to locate and sink a sub are SCARY GOOD, and I am talking Halloween Scary.

01-31-11, 05:43 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	For me, the answer of "which mod" has always been very simple.

01-31-11, 08:53 PM	#7
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	Personally, I wouldn't listen to Ducimus. It is clear that he has no idea what he is talking about.

02-01-11, 07:10 PM	#11
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	TMO has been my mod of choice for quite some time, but finally for the first time, I am trying out FOTRS just to see how it is. I like the addition of a greater list of ships to shoot at. Merchants and warships both. As for it being buggy, I haven't had one issue as of yet. The issues they probably had at first was the addition of the ships that they have incorporated. Other than the ships added, I find it to be very similar to TMO in gameplay, and all around enjoyment. And yes it is inspired and based on an earlier version of TMO. I think they also activated Midway, and Guam as sub bases. Midway is nice for early war ops, and Guam is nice in the late war period for quicker times into the combat areas. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

02-03-11, 09:02 PM	#15
Alky Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 258 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 0	I found one bug while playing FOTRS, it may not be the mods bug but it's the only place I've seen it. While sitting quietly in a harbor and waiting to get a torp off on a mechant, there was a DD cruising back & forth, problem was he was going backwards. His wake off the bow and stern was correct for going forward, howver the ship was actually moving in reverse __________________