Cruising Speed?

01-18-11, 04:57 PM

Fellow U-Boat commanders!

How fast do you generally cruise the oceans while on patrol?? My last couple patrols have come up empty and I'm worried I've been going too fast for the conditions and have missed contacts.

I pretty much run at "Standard" unless things get hot then I kick it into "Flank" speed and run like a little girl!

Gargamel · 01-18-11, 05:08 PM

I've installed the fuel effeciency mod, which set's 1/3 speed to my most fuel effecient. I usually cruise around 8 knots every where. Right before my computer died, I finished a 56 day patrol (type IX), and I still returned with 1/3 of a tank left (and 5 eels, sigh).

While I could go faster and have the same results, I'm always worried about that one time I get some damage and lose a diesel tank. half of nothing is, well, let me do the math, carry the nothing, ummm... nothing!

Missing Name · 01-18-11, 05:27 PM

Yeah, for the Type IX, I just click on "Ahead 9 knots." This seems to be the most efficient speed (note: it will rarely actually make 9. More like 8 or even lower on high seas.)

desirableroasted · 01-18-11, 05:37 PM

Set for 8 knots and forget it (in heavy seas, you won't make 8 knots, but don't worry about it).

If you want to get fiddly, go up into the tower, look for the RPM gauges, then adjust your speed until the RPMs hit 200. That seems to be the most efficient setting.

You can also prick your CE on the shoulder, take over his station, and do the same thing.

Fuel is the last thing you should run out of in SH3, either in stock or GWX. I regularly come home from 50+ day patrols with enough fuel to stay out another 20 days.

Obltn Strand · 01-18-11, 05:49 PM

When transfering to patrol area or returning to port I set 12kts.

Inside patrol grid/area 8kts.

CCIP · 01-18-11, 05:50 PM

Yep, 8-9kt is about correct and historical. Actual U-boats achieved this speed with efficient fuel consumption by having only one diesel running at a time, driving both screw shafts. While SH3 doesn't model that, the fuel consumption at that speed is about ideal in the game anyway.

sharkbit · 01-19-11, 08:11 AM

Like everyone has said, it falls in the 8 knot range.
If you want to find out exactly, set a speed, go to TC16 and have your navigator check your range to empty. Set a different speed and repeat. Check various speeds and you will find the most efficient speed where the range peaks and then falls off again.
Try to do this on a calm day because conditions will change the numbers. As long as you do it in the same conditions, it gives a pretty good idea of the most fuel efficient speed for the particular type of boat.

I do this each time I get a new type of boat. I chart it as well as the speeds(surfaced and submerged) at various settings, as well as reverse, and the speeds when running decks awash so I know exactly what speed I should be running at each setting and condition. Sea state chnges these numbers, but at least I know what I should be getting.

Paulski · 01-19-11, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Yep, 8-9kt is about correct and historical. Actual U-boats achieved this speed with efficient fuel consumption by having only one diesel running at a time, driving both screw shafts. While SH3 doesn't model that, the fuel consumption at that speed is about ideal in the game anyway.

Do you happen to know what's a historical correct cruising speed for the type II's?

Kapt Z · 01-19-11, 02:50 PM

As been said I think 8kts is the ideal for type VIIs. In order to factor in food consumption I have been using 9kts on my last patrols and that has reduced my range so that I can still do pretty much what I want, but will usually make me return to base after about 40 days or so. Sometimes with unused torps still aboard.

papa_smurf · 01-19-11, 04:01 PM

For me it depends on what type i'm in. Usually its:

- Type II; 6-7 knts
- Type VII/B and C; 7 knts
- Type IX; 8 knts

flag4 · 01-19-11, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NoGoodLandLubber

Fellow U-Boat commanders!

How fast do you generally cruise the oceans while on patrol?? My last couple patrols have come up empty and I'm worried I've been going too fast for the conditions and have missed contacts.

I pretty much run at "Standard" unless things get hot then I kick it into "Flank" speed and run like a little girl!

" a father bull and his son are sat on top of a hill. the son says to the father bull " hey dad, look at all those cows down there in the field. why dont we run down and **** one of them?"
the father bull turns to his son and says " why dont we walk down and **** them all?"

take your time. between 7-9 knots before the action hots up!

01-19-11, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flag4

" a father bull and his son are sat on top of a hill. the son says to the father bull " hey dad, look at all those cows down there in the field. why dont we run down and **** one of them?"
the father bull turns to his son and says " why dont we walk down and **** them all?"

take your time. between 7-9 knots before the action hots up!

This has to be the best analogy Ive ever heard. hahaha

WH4K · 01-20-11, 10:05 AM

I guess I'm doing it wrong. I use "Ahead Standard," which usually works out to 10 knots, less in rough seas.

Keep in mind that so far, I've only done patrols with Type IIs. It doesn't have much range until the IID upgrade. But you only get 5 torps anyway, so running out of fuel shouldn't really happen.

Even so, I managed to do it once, by profligate use of flank speed. I ran dry of fuel oil just close enough to home port to make the rest of the trip on the batteries.

Once I've used all torpedoes, I go home at Full or Flank, so that I can get back in the fight as quickly as possible. Of course I turn it down to 1/3 or even Slow in the harbor area, so I won't run into anything.

01-20-11, 10:07 AM

That's what I've been doing too...cruising at Standard with occasional jumps to light speed...usually involving hiking my skirt above my head like a little girl!

desirableroasted · 01-20-11, 10:40 AM

I always wonder why people use high speeds (my temptation is to go slower, but that's just as inefficient). And shoot at destroyers (the two seem to go hand in hand).

Your job is to sink as much merchant tonnage as possible with the ammunition you are given. So it should be a given you do that as efficiently as possible. Don't waste torpedoes and shells on warships. And realize 8 knots = more fuel on station = more time to carefully shoot torpedoes and gun ammunition + ready fuel to go home/to a resupply boat.

Burning up fuel racing around is like shooting torpedoes into the ocean, or using the deck gun for fireworks. And sinking a destroyer when you could be sinking a merchant carrying critical parts for 100 new destroyers is ego.

But that's just me.

01-18-11, 04:57 PM	#1
NoGoodLandLubber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Cruising Speed? Fellow U-Boat commanders! How fast do you generally cruise the oceans while on patrol?? My last couple patrols have come up empty and I'm worried I've been going too fast for the conditions and have missed contacts. I pretty much run at "Standard" unless things get hot then I kick it into "Flank" speed and run like a little girl!

01-18-11, 05:08 PM	#2
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	I've installed the fuel effeciency mod, which set's 1/3 speed to my most fuel effecient. I usually cruise around 8 knots every where. Right before my computer died, I finished a 56 day patrol (type IX), and I still returned with 1/3 of a tank left (and 5 eels, sigh). While I could go faster and have the same results, I'm always worried about that one time I get some damage and lose a diesel tank. half of nothing is, well, let me do the math, carry the nothing, ummm... nothing! __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

01-18-11, 05:27 PM	#3
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Yeah, for the Type IX, I just click on "Ahead 9 knots." This seems to be the most efficient speed (note: it will rarely actually make 9. More like 8 or even lower on high seas.) __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

01-18-11, 05:37 PM	#4
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Set for 8 knots and forget it (in heavy seas, you won't make 8 knots, but don't worry about it). If you want to get fiddly, go up into the tower, look for the RPM gauges, then adjust your speed until the RPMs hit 200. That seems to be the most efficient setting. You can also prick your CE on the shoulder, take over his station, and do the same thing. Fuel is the last thing you should run out of in SH3, either in stock or GWX. I regularly come home from 50+ day patrols with enough fuel to stay out another 20 days. __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

01-18-11, 05:50 PM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yep, 8-9kt is about correct and historical. Actual U-boats achieved this speed with efficient fuel consumption by having only one diesel running at a time, driving both screw shafts. While SH3 doesn't model that, the fuel consumption at that speed is about ideal in the game anyway. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-18-11, 05:49 PM	#5
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	When transfering to patrol area or returning to port I set 12kts. Inside patrol grid/area 8kts.

01-19-11, 08:11 AM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Like everyone has said, it falls in the 8 knot range. If you want to find out exactly, set a speed, go to TC16 and have your navigator check your range to empty. Set a different speed and repeat. Check various speeds and you will find the most efficient speed where the range peaks and then falls off again. Try to do this on a calm day because conditions will change the numbers. As long as you do it in the same conditions, it gives a pretty good idea of the most fuel efficient speed for the particular type of boat. I do this each time I get a new type of boat. I chart it as well as the speeds(surfaced and submerged) at various settings, as well as reverse, and the speeds when running decks awash so I know exactly what speed I should be running at each setting and condition. Sea state chnges these numbers, but at least I know what I should be getting. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

01-19-11, 02:50 PM	#9
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	As been said I think 8kts is the ideal for type VIIs. In order to factor in food consumption I have been using 9kts on my last patrols and that has reduced my range so that I can still do pretty much what I want, but will usually make me return to base after about 40 days or so. Sometimes with unused torps still aboard. __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

01-19-11, 04:01 PM	#10
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	For me it depends on what type i'm in. Usually its: - Type II; 6-7 knts - Type VII/B and C; 7 knts - Type IX; 8 knts __________________

01-20-11, 10:05 AM	#13
WH4K Frogman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	I guess I'm doing it wrong. I use "Ahead Standard," which usually works out to 10 knots, less in rough seas. Keep in mind that so far, I've only done patrols with Type IIs. It doesn't have much range until the IID upgrade. But you only get 5 torps anyway, so running out of fuel shouldn't really happen. Even so, I managed to do it once, by profligate use of flank speed. I ran dry of fuel oil just close enough to home port to make the rest of the trip on the batteries. Once I've used all torpedoes, I go home at Full or Flank, so that I can get back in the fight as quickly as possible. Of course I turn it down to 1/3 or even Slow in the harbor area, so I won't run into anything. __________________ Windows 10 Pro (x64)

01-20-11, 10:07 AM	#14
NoGoodLandLubber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	That's what I've been doing too...cruising at Standard with occasional jumps to light speed...usually involving hiking my skirt above my head like a little girl!

01-20-11, 10:40 AM	#15
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I always wonder why people use high speeds (my temptation is to go slower, but that's just as inefficient). And shoot at destroyers (the two seem to go hand in hand). Your job is to sink as much merchant tonnage as possible with the ammunition you are given. So it should be a given you do that as efficiently as possible. Don't waste torpedoes and shells on warships. And realize 8 knots = more fuel on station = more time to carefully shoot torpedoes and gun ammunition + ready fuel to go home/to a resupply boat. Burning up fuel racing around is like shooting torpedoes into the ocean, or using the deck gun for fireworks. And sinking a destroyer when you could be sinking a merchant carrying critical parts for 100 new destroyers is ego. But that's just me. __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."