Newbie needs some advice

karmagettie · 11-01-10, 09:54 PM

I am god at easy mod on SHIII. I found SHIV , blew the dust off, and started to play it.

I must admit i am having a hard time against escorts. They always know where i am. I even go into silent mode, change course and try to escape, but they get me everytime.

My wife is getting upset at my cursewords, but i loved part 3 a lot and i dont want to fold to fast on IV

Diopos · 11-01-10, 10:29 PM

Go deeper, silent, slower, under the thermal layer and keep them at a bearing around 0 or 180° (minimize your "aspect" towards the DDs).

If they still get you, you can comfort yourself that you did your job well, it's the "job" that sucks!

DD behavior is version and mod dependant.

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karmagettie · 11-02-10, 12:54 AM

how can i tell the thermal layer?

I did some reading and what works half the time is wait for some depth charges, then nail silent running, decoy, and like shard to starboard or port while diving. 0_o

Do you launch torps by doing the *lock* function , or do you just do it by hand?

subskipper53 · 11-02-10, 01:08 AM

You'll hear one of your crewmembers say, "Passing thermal layer."

WernherVonTrapp · 11-02-10, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by karmagettie

how can i tell the thermal layer?

I did some reading and what works half the time is wait for some depth charges, then nail silent running, decoy, and like shard to starboard or port while diving. 0_o

Do you launch torps by doing the *lock* function , or do you just do it by hand?

Before you "rig for silent running" make sure you de-activate your "damage control crew". I know that, in the stock version, it made a big difference in keeping me undetected. Try to keep your sub bladed near the DDs. What I mean is, you want to present the smallest portion of your sub against any active sonar. If the seas are calm, it raises your chances of being detected. If the seas are rough, the DDs have a harder time picking up your sound. If the DDs are approaching, they're in a better position to hear you. If they're passing, it becomes harder to detect you as their angle of departure increases.
If you're approaching the convoy/TF from the front, try coming in at a 45 to 90° angle and turning in toward the convoy after the first DD passes if necessary. As far as the "thermal layer" is concerned, your crew will tell you when you've passed it. You launch torpedoes using either, the red fire button or, the "Enter" key. If a DD is making a DC run over the top of you, go to flank speed and change your direction, hopefully the opposite direction. SHIV is not the kind of sub sim that can be mastered overnight. It has a steep learning curve and takes some time to become proficient. I've been playing a couple of years and I'm still learning. Good luck with those DDs.

I'm goin' down · 11-02-10, 03:34 PM

there is a link in the Skippers Bag of Tricks sticky that discusses enemy radar. Also, dds in TMO have a genius IQ re AI, and they can find you at long range. Consider the Constant Bearing Attack for firing at long range. That can keep you out of range and it is accurate. It is also discussed in the Skippers Bag of Tricks thread.

Armistead · 11-02-10, 03:49 PM

I've often wondered if having your crew at SS, if repairs being done caused any noise in game. Even if you go off BS's, they're showing repair status for those on duty, pumps drain water, ect....I haven't seen any difference. I think silent running justs places a few more value points in your favor, but would be nice to know for sure. Regardless, even if you cut BS and remove your damage crew if you have hull damaged that gets fixed it will show pumping out water, that pump would be death in real life.

11-01-10, 09:54 PM	#1
karmagettie Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Newbie needs some advice I am god at easy mod on SHIII. I found SHIV , blew the dust off, and started to play it. I must admit i am having a hard time against escorts. They always know where i am. I even go into silent mode, change course and try to escape, but they get me everytime. My wife is getting upset at my cursewords, but i loved part 3 a lot and i dont want to fold to fast on IV

11-01-10, 10:29 PM	#2
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Go deeper, silent, slower, under the thermal layer and keep them at a bearing around 0 or 180° (minimize your "aspect" towards the DDs). If they still get you, you can comfort yourself that you did your job well, it's the "job" that sucks! DD behavior is version and mod dependant. . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

11-02-10, 03:34 PM	#6
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	read the attack techniques there is a link in the Skippers Bag of Tricks sticky that discusses enemy radar. Also, dds in TMO have a genius IQ re AI, and they can find you at long range. Consider the Constant Bearing Attack for firing at long range. That can keep you out of range and it is accurate. It is also discussed in the Skippers Bag of Tricks thread.

11-02-10, 12:54 AM	#3
karmagettie Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	how can i tell the thermal layer? I did some reading and what works half the time is wait for some depth charges, then nail silent running, decoy, and like shard to starboard or port while diving. 0_o Do you launch torps by doing the lock function , or do you just do it by hand?

11-02-10, 01:08 AM	#4
subskipper53 Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Location: Running Silent, Running Deep Posts: 41 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 0	You'll hear one of your crewmembers say, "Passing thermal layer."

11-02-10, 03:49 PM	#7
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I've often wondered if having your crew at SS, if repairs being done caused any noise in game. Even if you go off BS's, they're showing repair status for those on duty, pumps drain water, ect....I haven't seen any difference. I think silent running justs places a few more value points in your favor, but would be nice to know for sure. Regardless, even if you cut BS and remove your damage crew if you have hull damaged that gets fixed it will show pumping out water, that pump would be death in real life.