Women on subs...

Armistead · 10-28-10, 01:25 AM

See they're finally gonna let women serve in our nuclear sub fleet. What made me choke is it cost $300,000 to convert on bunk in a nuclear sub.
Guess they had to add seperate spacing, basically 3 women added per sub, think a total of 9. About 2 million per woman in total cost to bring em aboard......They talked of the cramped quarters, ect., saying that has nothing to do with it...wonder if they would've changed their mind on a WW2 boat.

I saw the interview with a few, one would scare the hell out of Halsey, one, well, room in my bunk for her anytime.....

Anyone here served on a nuc. I assume they don't hot bunk?

I guess it's about time.

ETR3(SS) · 10-28-10, 01:37 AM

I was on an Ohio. Hot racking still goes on on the 688s not sure about the Seawolf or Virginia class though. I personally don't like women in the military as it is, let alone on a submarine.

Armistead · 10-28-10, 01:40 AM

Yea, that seems to be the concenus from the men on the sub, but my, how times are a changing. I would think sexual tension is bad enough? How long were your patrols?

JREX53 · 10-28-10, 08:49 AM

The sub crews will be either all men or all women. There will be no mixed crews. That was decided last year or the year before.

I think this was reported in the Navy Times or News.

Jim

Armistead · 10-28-10, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JREX53

The sub crews will be either all men or all women. There will be no mixed crews. That was decided last year or the year before.

I think this was reported in the Navy Times or News.

Jim

You're kidding, if they were gonna wait for a all woman crew to man a nuclear sub, would never happen.

The women officers are in training now and will go on duty next year.

The CNN report.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22...-s-submarines/

WernherVonTrapp · 10-29-10, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

You're kidding, if they were gonna wait for a all woman crew to man a nuclear sub, would never happen.

The women officers are in training now and will go on duty next year.

The CNN report.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22...-s-submarines/

Speaking of which, now I'm just a little curious, speculating of course in the name of science-like. I wonder what submarines would be shaped like if women ruled the world.

ETR3(SS) · 10-28-10, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Yea, that seems to be the concenus from the men on the sub, but my, how times are a changing. I would think sexual tension is bad enough? How long were your patrols?

Every time we went out we planned on it being a minimum of 90 days. Usually ended up in the 70-80 days range though. Sexual tension isn't too bad now as everybody brought their own "entertainment." Put women on board, officer or not, and it's going to get worse. And they will get pregnant which will prevent them from deploying for two years (not sure on the time, haven't been pregnant in the Navy). And then somebody has to fill their spot which means somebody on shore duty just got put back on sea duty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JREX53

The sub crews will be either all men or all women. There will be no mixed crews. That was decided last year or the year before.

I think this was reported in the Navy Times or News.

Jim

If they were doing segregated crews this wouldn't be causing the big stir that it is. They are doing integrated crews. Now I'll say this, if the Admirals and the SECNAV were really interested in equality for women they would let them join the SEALs as well. Political maneuvering, happens in the military too.

timmyg00 · 10-28-10, 09:47 AM

What kills me about this is the idea that ANY accomodations at all must be made based on gender, not only on submarines, but in any branch of the military. On shore bases or rear bases, that's different... Sure, you can designate separate sections of barracks etc. for each gender. However, once you are on a front-line unit, such as a ship, that separation needs to go out the window. The mission comes first, and your comfort and privacy come second. So, my take on this is that "You joined the military. It's a sacrifice. Deal with it." Accomodations for privacy should not be made, especially in these budget-conscious times. What this all amounts to is a multi-million-dollar social engineering project.

TG

Alky · 10-29-10, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

See they're finally gonna let women serve in our nuclear sub fleet. What made me choke is it cost $300,000 to convert on bunk in a nuclear sub.
Guess they had to add separate spacing

And yet it's ok to put gay men in with straight. Maybe it should just be co-ed, no special accommodations, let everyone get distracted regardless of sexual preference

10-29-10, 02:16 PM

Hmm...why am I suddenly hearing the theme to Love Boat???

I'll be here all week!! Don't forget to tip your waitress!!

Captain1966 · 10-29-10, 04:45 PM

Hey! Women served on subs in WWII.

Here is the proof:

Platapus · 10-29-10, 06:09 PM

"we sunk a truck!"

10-28-10, 01:25 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Women on subs... See they're finally gonna let women serve in our nuclear sub fleet. What made me choke is it cost $300,000 to convert on bunk in a nuclear sub. Guess they had to add seperate spacing, basically 3 women added per sub, think a total of 9. About 2 million per woman in total cost to bring em aboard......They talked of the cramped quarters, ect., saying that has nothing to do with it...wonder if they would've changed their mind on a WW2 boat. I saw the interview with a few, one would scare the hell out of Halsey, one, well, room in my bunk for her anytime..... Anyone here served on a nuc. I assume they don't hot bunk? I guess it's about time.

10-28-10, 01:37 AM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I was on an Ohio. Hot racking still goes on on the 688s not sure about the Seawolf or Virginia class though. I personally don't like women in the military as it is, let alone on a submarine. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

10-28-10, 08:49 AM	#4
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	The sub crews will be either all men or all women. There will be no mixed crews. That was decided last year or the year before. I think this was reported in the Navy Times or News. Jim __________________ Jim

10-28-10, 09:47 AM	#8
timmyg00 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts, USA Posts: 282 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	What kills me about this is the idea that ANY accomodations at all must be made based on gender, not only on submarines, but in any branch of the military. On shore bases or rear bases, that's different... Sure, you can designate separate sections of barracks etc. for each gender. However, once you are on a front-line unit, such as a ship, that separation needs to go out the window. The mission comes first, and your comfort and privacy come second. So, my take on this is that "You joined the military. It's a sacrifice. Deal with it." Accomodations for privacy should not be made, especially in these budget-conscious times. What this all amounts to is a multi-million-dollar social engineering project. TG __________________ ET1/SS, SSN-760 USSVI Marblehead Base (MA) *Naval Historical Sites - Photo Galleries*

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	"we sunk a truck!" __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Yea, that seems to be the concenus from the men on the sub, but my, how times are a changing. I would think sexual tension is bad enough? How long were your patrols?

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NoGoodLandLubber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hmm...why am I suddenly hearing the theme to Love Boat??? I'll be here all week!! Don't forget to tip your waitress!!

10-29-10, 04:45 PM	#11
Captain1966 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 12 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Hey! Women served on subs in WWII. Here is the proof: