Inexhaustible compressed air

Robin40 · 10-22-10, 01:57 AM

Well after a dozen thousand times of emerging and diving the compressed air level is always 100%.

Is this a bug? Is there any fix to it?

Armistead · 10-22-10, 02:07 AM

Not sure which way you mean it, if you mean you never lose any air, you probably don't have the realistic compressed air checked in your options setting.

If you're compressed air icon is lit up and won't go off even after you surface, that is a known bug, one that can't be fixed. You can correct it by simply saving and reloading your game.
However, if it truly reaches a 100% you shouldn't alive. Most agree that this bug happens more when you alt/tab a lot or keep writing over the same save

ETR3(SS) · 10-22-10, 02:08 AM

Check to see if you have Limited Compressed Air enabled or not. Good place to start the troubleshooting.

Robin40 · 10-22-10, 03:27 AM

I am always plenty of compressed air

Gameplay settings

Everything checked except
-no map contact update
-no event camera

Campaign difficulty Hard

ichso · 10-22-10, 03:59 AM

Compressed air is only used on emergency blows. Normal diving/emerging doesn't use it at all. Even though its not realistic.

Robin40 · 10-22-10, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichso

Compressed air is only used on emergency blows. Normal diving/emerging doesn't use it at all. Even though its not realistic.

thx...in this SH5 is more realistic...only in this anyway

Armistead · 10-22-10, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichso

Compressed air is only used on emergency blows. Normal diving/emerging doesn't use it at all. Even though its not realistic.

Actually compressed air is used in other ways. If your compressor is damaged for one.

For instance, my compressor got damaged. I blew a few times to control my dive, but had about 50 % left saving. I still had to try to come up using manual settings or P key. Usually in an out of control dive you can come up using speed or the P key over manual adjustments. If those don't work, then you may have to blow tanks. However, your boat uses compressed air changing depths. If your compressor is damaged you use your air in the tanks anytime you adjust depth either way, not just blowing tanks., once it runs out, you're out. If your compressor is damaged and you change depths a lot, you'll eventually see messages that your air is getting lower, even if you don't blow tanks. If you keep trying to come up to control a dive you may run out. These systems are connected in more ways we think.

Robin, are you adjusting your campaign settings in the office using the radio. You have to make changes there for campaign, not in the loading screen. The options at the loading screen don't work for campaign, must always use the radio in the office. Check the radio and see what your settings are.

Robin40 · 10-22-10, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Actually compressed air is used in other ways. If your compressor is damaged for one.

For instance, my compressor got damaged. I blew a few times to control my dive, but had about 50 % left saving. I still had to try to come up using manual settings or P key. Usually in an out of control dive you can come up using speed or the P key over manual adjustments. If those don't work, then you may have to blow tanks. However, your boat uses compressed air changing depths. If your compressor is damaged you use your air in the tanks anytime you adjust depth either way, not just blowing tanks., once it runs out, you're out. If your compressor is damaged and you change depths a lot, you'll eventually see messages that your air is getting lower, even if you don't blow tanks. If you keep trying to come up to control a dive you may run out. These systems are connected in more ways we think.

Robin, are you adjusting your campaign settings in the office using the radio. You have to make changes there for campaign, not in the loading screen. The options at the loading screen don't work for campaign, must always use the radio in the office. Check the radio and see what your settings are.

Radio in the office checked
Limited compressed air was already set ON (i.e. realistic)

Armistead · 10-22-10, 10:09 AM

Something wrong on your end or missing something. Only issue with CO2 was running out on the surface, game somehows still sees you as dived, thus you run out. If yours never runs out at all dived no matter what you do, not sure, not a bug I've ever seen or heard about except not having the correct options set.

What version are you playing, at least 1.4, better 1.5,

Other thread said your using TMO/RSRD

Give the complete list or versions with patches.

John Channing · 10-22-10, 10:29 AM

I think you may be confusing compressed air with CO2. Two different things.

JCC

Armistead · 10-22-10, 10:48 AM

Probably right, haven't looked at those things in forever, but seems a seperate setting for CO2 and compressed air, make sure you put a check in both and bet that fixes it.

Robin40 · 10-22-10, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Something wrong on your end or missing something. Only issue with CO2 was running out on the surface, game somehows still sees you as dived, thus you run out. If yours never runs out at all dived no matter what you do, not sure, not a bug I've ever seen or heard about except not having the correct options set.

What version are you playing, at least 1.4, better 1.5,

Other thread said your using TMO/RSRD

Give the complete list or versions with patches.

v1.5

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
TMO_Stock_Gramaphone
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
Convoy Routes TMO+RSRD
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v. 1.2
NMMO Airbase Add-on

Now changing to

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2
TMO_Stock_Gramaphone
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TMO_20_Beta_update
IJN_Rad_Fix_for_TMO2_beta update
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Convoy Routes TMO+RSRD
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v. 1.2
NMMO Airbase Add-on

Hope that loading order be correct and there be no conflicts

Bubblehead1980 · 10-22-10, 01:02 PM

Armistead actually got into it but I'll add my piece because I've seen this personally a few times in the game.

The game does account for routine usage of compressed air, however the amount used is pretty small compared to say an emergency blow so it doesnt register on the meter, it should but it does.However, if you pay attention after a long dive, esp if you went deep and changed depth, after you surface and get moving, your officer will report "Compressed Air at 100% sir" this is because you got on the surface and your compressor went into action, restoring your compressed air reserve.

Now, take some serious flooding and fight to maintain a depth, itll suck up your compressed air, enough youll see your reserve go down on the meter.Blowing ballast uses a ton of compressed air, so that will suck it up also.

I have witnessed this 3 or 4 times so can confirm.Oh yea, dont let your compressor get destroyed, wont have it to replenish your reserve.

So in a nut shell....

"routine" compressed air usage isnt enough to show on the "game" meter on the toolbar but air is used and if were under for a while etc youll get a report after surfacing a few minutes of your compressed air reserve being back at 100.

Non routine usage such as blowing ballast or fighting flooding will register on the meter.

arnahud2 · 10-23-10, 05:32 AM

Hmm...I use to play SH4 1.5 with TMO 2.0 + RSDC for a long time, no mistake with compressed air gauge, many long dives with a lot of depth changes show that compressed air decreases accordingly.

Blow out main ballast tanks is really for emergency only...

Bubblehead1980 · 10-23-10, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin40

v1.5

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
TMO_Stock_Gramaphone
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
Convoy Routes TMO+RSRD
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v. 1.2
NMMO Airbase Add-on

Now changing to

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2
TMO_Stock_Gramaphone
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TMO_20_Beta_update
IJN_Rad_Fix_for_TMO2_beta update
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Convoy Routes TMO+RSRD
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v. 1.2
NMMO Airbase Add-on

Hope that loading order be correct and there be no conflicts

Loadout should always start out...

TMO
TMO Beta update
RSRD
RSRD patch
Every other mod you want.

10-22-10, 01:57 AM	#1
Robin40 Chief Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rivoli (Italy) Posts: 310 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Inexhaustible compressed air Well after a dozen thousand times of emerging and diving the compressed air level is always 100%. Is this a bug? Is there any fix to it?

10-22-10, 02:08 AM	#3
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Check to see if you have Limited Compressed Air enabled or not. Good place to start the troubleshooting. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

10-22-10, 03:59 AM	#5
ichso Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany's oldest city alive Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Compressed air is only used on emergency blows. Normal diving/emerging doesn't use it at all. Even though its not realistic. __________________ My Subskins: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164169

10-23-10, 05:32 AM	#14
arnahud2 Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 308 Downloads: 724 Uploads: 0	Hmm...I use to play SH4 1.5 with TMO 2.0 + RSDC for a long time, no mistake with compressed air gauge, many long dives with a lot of depth changes show that compressed air decreases accordingly. Blow out main ballast tanks is really for emergency only... __________________

10-22-10, 02:07 AM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Not sure which way you mean it, if you mean you never lose any air, you probably don't have the realistic compressed air checked in your options setting. If you're compressed air icon is lit up and won't go off even after you surface, that is a known bug, one that can't be fixed. You can correct it by simply saving and reloading your game. However, if it truly reaches a 100% you shouldn't alive. Most agree that this bug happens more when you alt/tab a lot or keep writing over the same save

10-22-10, 03:27 AM	#4
Robin40 Chief Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rivoli (Italy) Posts: 310 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I am always plenty of compressed air Gameplay settings Everything checked except -no map contact update -no event camera Campaign difficulty Hard

10-22-10, 10:09 AM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Something wrong on your end or missing something. Only issue with CO2 was running out on the surface, game somehows still sees you as dived, thus you run out. If yours never runs out at all dived no matter what you do, not sure, not a bug I've ever seen or heard about except not having the correct options set. What version are you playing, at least 1.4, better 1.5, Other thread said your using TMO/RSRD Give the complete list or versions with patches.

10-22-10, 10:29 AM	#10
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	I think you may be confusing compressed air with CO2. Two different things. JCC

10-22-10, 10:48 AM	#11
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Probably right, haven't looked at those things in forever, but seems a seperate setting for CO2 and compressed air, make sure you put a check in both and bet that fixes it.

10-22-10, 01:02 PM	#13
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,121 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Armistead actually got into it but I'll add my piece because I've seen this personally a few times in the game. The game does account for routine usage of compressed air, however the amount used is pretty small compared to say an emergency blow so it doesnt register on the meter, it should but it does.However, if you pay attention after a long dive, esp if you went deep and changed depth, after you surface and get moving, your officer will report "Compressed Air at 100% sir" this is because you got on the surface and your compressor went into action, restoring your compressed air reserve. Now, take some serious flooding and fight to maintain a depth, itll suck up your compressed air, enough youll see your reserve go down on the meter.Blowing ballast uses a ton of compressed air, so that will suck it up also. I have witnessed this 3 or 4 times so can confirm.Oh yea, dont let your compressor get destroyed, wont have it to replenish your reserve. So in a nut shell.... "routine" compressed air usage isnt enough to show on the "game" meter on the toolbar but air is used and if were under for a while etc youll get a report after surfacing a few minutes of your compressed air reserve being back at 100. Non routine usage such as blowing ballast or fighting flooding will register on the meter.