The irony (idiocy) of it all

Betonov · 10-13-10, 02:27 PM

There's a prestigius award in my country, the golden gazelle, which is awarded to companies that are fastest growing in the country (most revenue growth, positive employment etc...). Our company received the regional gazelle just two weeks ago and today my employment contract was terminated due to the company going into the red...

if thats not ********* up

So, any similar experiences out there and anyone looking for an experienced modeller/boatbuilder to hire ???

the company is Seaway group d.o.o. (GmbH or inc. me thinks)

SteamWake · 10-13-10, 03:00 PM

Is that the Seaway group that makes luxury boats?

frau kaleun · 10-13-10, 03:05 PM

Sorry to hear about the job loss, that sucks. Especially when on the surface things seemed to look so good.

Betonov · 10-13-10, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Is that the Seaway group that makes luxury boats?

the same. They screwed themselves by starting the greenline 33 hybrid boat. It was an off the line serial production that brought them substantial loses. It's like Rolls Royce would start producing Ford Fiestas

Jimbuna · 10-13-10, 03:22 PM

That's bad news....best of luck in finding alternative employment

SteamWake · 10-13-10, 04:17 PM

A 'hybrid' luxury yacht? That makes perfect sense.

Al Gore should get one

Castout · 10-13-10, 06:16 PM

Aaw sorry to hear that Betonov but my impression of you is that you're a capable man. . . .I hope you'll find another soon or make your own!

TLAM Strike · 10-13-10, 07:57 PM

Wow I figured their would be no shortage of rich Sheiks wanting yachts.

SOCOM is looking for a new Special Warfare boat, maybe find a company looking to produce that.

FIREWALL · 10-13-10, 08:22 PM

An old saying.... All the skill in the world won't beat, Bonehead management thinking.

Hope you find work soon.

Reece · 10-13-10, 10:18 PM

Sorry to hear that, hope you find a better job!

krashkart · 10-13-10, 10:35 PM

Best of luck to you, Betonov. How long had you worked for them?

krashkart · 10-13-10, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

An old saying.... All the skill in the world won't beat, Bonehead management thinking.

*Pshaw!*

Betonov · 10-14-10, 03:35 AM

The problem is, with all the experience I have, I have no formal education/qualification for anything. I worked for them for 3 years and became quite experienced, but now I have the problem no employer will want someone with a non-specialized high school education, and my diploma is still a couple of years away.

Quote:

Wow I figured their would be no shortage of rich Sheiks wanting yachts.

we can make them but the bonehead management cant sell them

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A 'hybrid' luxury yacht? That makes perfect sense.

Al Gore should get one

It was a good idea, but the strategy was to lay off the experienced manpower and hire cheap labor from former yugoslav republics. I have nothing against them, they're capable but they dont put their hearts to it. You cant make a 5 star product without wanting to make a 5 star product and not just get trough the day and collect the pay. Some of the greenlines I saw going out the gates, like a 10 year child would make them. Plus it was a rushed production, somekind an idea about making more boats each month without increasing the manpower. And behold, the sales suddenly stopped, what a surprise

To avoid further confusion, I was working in design&tooling, I wanst directly involved in construction of the actuall boats, we made the models and moulds. D&T was recesion proof due to Seaway being the design company for many other european companies like Bavaria, Jenneau and Bennetau. But the greenline curse caught up....

Thanks for the support

and dont worry, I wont start drinking because of this

Betonov · 10-14-10, 03:36 AM

This cartoon kind-a sums it up

, for everyone

Respenus · 10-14-10, 08:06 AM

The major problem for Betonov is the fact that since he lives in Slovenia he either needs to move abroad or remain unemployed. While his experience in tool and model making is sure to get him some sort of a job in our industrial sector, the whole Slovenian economy is in shambles. There is no other way of saying it. The whole economy is just working on inertia right now. A couple more set backs like the failure of the Seaway group and we'll be the next Greece, considering that in almost two years of tenure, our government has been unable to do squat s*** (I apologise for the language, yet there is no other way of saying it) to try and restart the economy. Sure, it threw a lot of money to companies with correct political affiliations, that is company of the current government coalition, while every other profit making company had go to bust due to the inability to get any working capital. The same thing happened to me. Damn shame really, considering that we make the kind of product that should restart certain economic sectors. Just goes to show that Slovenia is still a backwater banana republic country. If you're an ex-communist, calling yourself a neoliberal, you get all the luxury a man or woman could want, while the man on the street is without a job and most importantly, is humiliated by his own state. Not that I support the constant right wing attacks against ideological enemies, yet they at least proposed laws which should in theory (much more cannot be asked from a government in Slovenia anyhow) work. That was two years ago, when there was still some money going around. Now, we're hung up high and dry. Good thing I still draw government scholarship, yet how long that will last is another question.

10-13-10, 02:27 PM	#1
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	The irony (idiocy) of it all There's a prestigius award in my country, the golden gazelle, which is awarded to companies that are fastest growing in the country (most revenue growth, positive employment etc...). Our company received the regional gazelle just two weeks ago and today my employment contract was terminated due to the company going into the red... if thats not ********* up So, any similar experiences out there and anyone looking for an experienced modeller/boatbuilder to hire ??? the company is Seaway group d.o.o. (GmbH or inc. me thinks)

10-13-10, 03:00 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Is that the Seaway group that makes luxury boats? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-13-10, 03:22 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,451 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	That's bad news....best of luck in finding alternative employment __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-13-10, 04:17 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	A 'hybrid' luxury yacht? That makes perfect sense. Al Gore should get one __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-13-10, 06:16 PM	#7
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Aaw sorry to hear that Betonov but my impression of you is that you're a capable man. . . .I hope you'll find another soon or make your own! __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

10-13-10, 03:05 PM	#3
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear about the job loss, that sucks. Especially when on the surface things seemed to look so good.

10-13-10, 07:57 PM	#8
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Wow I figured their would be no shortage of rich Sheiks wanting yachts. SOCOM is looking for a new Special Warfare boat, maybe find a company looking to produce that. __________________

10-13-10, 08:22 PM	#9
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	An old saying.... All the skill in the world won't beat, Bonehead management thinking. Hope you find work soon. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

10-13-10, 10:18 PM	#10
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,686 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear that, hope you find a better job! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-13-10, 10:35 PM	#11
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Best of luck to you, Betonov. How long had you worked for them?

10-14-10, 03:36 AM	#14
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	This cartoon kind-a sums it up , for everyone

10-14-10, 08:06 AM	#15
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The major problem for Betonov is the fact that since he lives in Slovenia he either needs to move abroad or remain unemployed. While his experience in tool and model making is sure to get him some sort of a job in our industrial sector, the whole Slovenian economy is in shambles. There is no other way of saying it. The whole economy is just working on inertia right now. A couple more set backs like the failure of the Seaway group and we'll be the next Greece, considering that in almost two years of tenure, our government has been unable to do squat s*** (I apologise for the language, yet there is no other way of saying it) to try and restart the economy. Sure, it threw a lot of money to companies with correct political affiliations, that is company of the current government coalition, while every other profit making company had go to bust due to the inability to get any working capital. The same thing happened to me. Damn shame really, considering that we make the kind of product that should restart certain economic sectors. Just goes to show that Slovenia is still a backwater banana republic country. If you're an ex-communist, calling yourself a neoliberal, you get all the luxury a man or woman could want, while the man on the street is without a job and most importantly, is humiliated by his own state. Not that I support the constant right wing attacks against ideological enemies, yet they at least proposed laws which should in theory (much more cannot be asked from a government in Slovenia anyhow) work. That was two years ago, when there was still some money going around. Now, we're hung up high and dry. Good thing I still draw government scholarship, yet how long that will last is another question. __________________