Feeling uncomfortable?

That was one reason given here. Security was another, after all its threatening and dangerous if a woman walks down the street with her face covered.

Isn't it just a pathetic excuse to hide the phobia behind.

[antikristuseke]

I am not supposed to drool at work, dammit.

[gimpy117]

lolz

[Castout]

Sexy legs whoever sculpted it must be an artist!


I do hate when women with not so sexy legs(short legs or flat ass especially) putting on short and being confident with it thinking it was cool and sexy. . . . . . . . .wtf

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Castout

I do hate when women with not so sexy legs(short legs or flat ass especially) putting on short and being confident with it thinking it was cool and sexy. . . . . . . . .wtf

Consider it payback for all the flabby dudes with beer guts and moobs who like to walk around shirtless when it's warm outside. Goose, gander, etc.

[antikristuseke]

I'm glad I don't add to the moob demographic, but I do refuse to wear shirts most of the time during summer. Summer is short here and needs to be enjoyed, dammit.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

I'm glad I don't add to the moob demographic, but I do refuse to wear shirts most of the time during summer. Summer is short here and needs to be enjoyed, dammit.

Oh, I'm not saying they should cover up to please me - any more than some random woman whose body type doesn't please some random dude should cover up to please him.

Believe it or not I know women who prefer "heavyset" guys. There are probably also guys who find attractive the very things that Castout thinks are unsexy and uncool. And that's perfectly fine. Variety is the spice of life, after all.

Why someone shouldn't feel confident if they are happy and comfortable with how they look, just because somebody else doesn't find them attractive, is beyond me. It's not like it's a woman's (or a man's) responsibility to cater to the preferences of every random person who sees them in the course of the day.

Edit: oh and as we all know you cater to the "clothespin" demographic.

[antikristuseke]

That's more of a hung over morning special.

[FIREWALL]

I didn't even have to watch the whole clip to see it was two guys.

From the rear they walked like two cows clomping along.

And their big feet and hocks was a giveaway too.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Consider it payback for all the flabby dudes with beer guts and moobs who like to walk around shirtless when it's warm outside. Goose, gander, etc.

...I see your point

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

It's not like it's a woman's (or a man's) responsibility to cater to the preferences of every random person who sees them in the course of the day.

Umm I'm not saying people need to cater to the liking of other people. Sure go wear what you like or are comfortable with but if you wear something a little too much for ya don't blame some people who find it ridiculous and perhaps thought of it as a little 'mismatch' or view it as a display of overconfidence.

And I'm not talking about bikini in beaches either. I have no qualms about wearing scantily on appropriate venues but many ladies wear sexy short for the purpose of looking attractive and sexy and when they are neither attractive nor sexy when wearing them I'd call it a display of overconfidence on their part.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Castout

but many ladies wear sexy short for the purpose of looking attractive and sexy and when they are neither attractive nor sexy when wearing them I'd call it a display of overconfidence on their part.

Noted, but my point was that what you find attractive and sexy is your personal "thing" and not everybody may agree with it. It's all subjective. Somebody else may find the same woman in the same outfit both attractive and sexy, and not consider her overconfident about her appearance at all.

Just like I can look at some random guy and find him unattractive and wonder why he's walking around like he thinks he is... some other woman may very well agree with him. So should his level of confidence be based on her opinion, or mine? Well, it's probably based on his own opinion, and on what he knows or assumes about the opinion of whatever person he's actually trying to attract, if he's even trying to attract one. And not everybody dresses the way they do to be attractive to anyone in particular. If he's dressing to please himself, and not to attract me or her or anyone else, then our opinions are relevant only to us.

Now if he's actively trying to attract me and failing miserably and doesn't seem to understand that regardless of how obvious I make it, that's another story.

Eh, I just get tired of all the body-shaming that we do to each other on the assumption that the person whose appearance we don't like is trying to please us in the first place. Saying that someone is overconfident about how attractive they look to us assumes that they're trying to attract us in the first place, and that their level of confidence is or should be based on how good a job they're doing of something we only assume they care about.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Noted, but my point was that what you find attractive and sexy is your personal "thing" and not everybody may agree with it. It's all subjective. Somebody else may find the same woman in the same outfit both attractive and sexy, and not consider her overconfident about her appearance at all.

Just like I can look at some random guy and find him unattractive and wonder why he's walking around like he thinks he is... some other woman may very well agree with him. So should his level of confidence be based on her opinion, or mine? Well, it's probably based on his own opinion, and on what he knows or assumes about the opinion of whatever person he's actually trying to attract, if he's even trying to attract one. And not everybody dresses the way they do to be attractive to anyone in particular. If he's dressing to please himself, and not to attract me or her or anyone else, then our opinions are relevant only to us.

Now if he's actively trying to attract me and failing miserably and doesn't seem to understand that regardless of how obvious I make it, that's another story.

Eh, I just get tired of all the body-shaming that we do to each other on the assumption that the person whose appearance we don't like is trying to please us in the first place. Saying that someone is overconfident about how attractive they look to us assumes that they're trying to attract us in the first place, and that their level of confidence is or should be based on how good a job they're doing of something we only assume they care about.

I'm confused... but i bet it was meant that way, your rabbling on like a blabber mouth laughing hah! This will have em scratching their heads!

Retreating back to my cave.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I didn't even have to watch the whole clip to see it was two guys.

From the rear they walked like two cows clomping along.

And their big feet and hocks was a giveaway too.

They must be your kind " women "

[Castout]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Eh, I just get tired of all the body-shaming that we do to each other on the assumption that the person whose appearance we don't like is trying to please us in the first place. Saying that someone is overconfident about how attractive they look to us assumes that they're trying to attract us in the first place, and that their level of confidence is or should be based on how good a job they're doing of something we only assume they care about.

Umm never said anything about pleasing anyone personally but frankly I believe most if not all women dress up and put on heavy make up to look good and appealing to men. Now I can appreciate looking good for one's own confidence but men usually are not revealing anything to look good. I personally as many other men out there just wear anything that I find comfortable wearing and when it's comfortable it's good for me. On the other hand women wear things so that they would be sexually appealing to men that is to put their self worth in the number of men who find them sexually attractive or put it bluntly the number of men who want them on their bed. High heels, sexy short, mini skirt, you name it. I just think women have been exploited enough and it's rather derogatory to women and insulting to put all that effort or worse to put their self worth and confidence on and just for strangers.

The truth is it's still largely a man's world out there and the media and industry are up about exploiting women sexuality and even making them volunteering themselves. When I read some women magazine I can't help but feel disgusted because it's so shallow and it's nothing much but an effort to brainwash women on what is cool and what is not.

Sure if a women with a great figure want to show off and put on a sexy short go ahead but the trend is that everybody wants to be in that position whatever their figure thanks to the media and industry that's shaping the world's opinion on what a beautiful women should be and not.

On the other hand sure there may be other women out there who wear short because it's comfortable to them but I'm not talking about that kind of women but the kind of women who tries to be sexy.

You see my reason is not because of what you think.

I just want women to be more....critical....sort of...
to think and not just to accept things as they are.
To know where they put their self worth and why and to change it if necessary given thoughts and principles.
Being attractive or feminine is not about being sexy but it's an attitude and behavior that's projecting that attitude(it's not being submissive either). Men will fall over a feminine women feet than a mere sexy one. What is inside is much sexier that what is outside. It can't be faked nor exploited. It's just who you are or rather what you are.

Perhaps what I'm trying to say is most women have no idea about how being an attractive women and are relying to much on mere sexuality. It's rare indeed to find a women who are crazily attractive not because of the dress they are wearing but because of the attitude that they presenting . . . . .Personally I believe it's a mother duty to teach their daughters how to be the women but you can't teach what you don't know.

I hope I don't sound gay trying to explain this

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Castout

I hope I don't sound gay trying to explain this

The hell with that, I'm more interested in knowing why Firewall is talking to himself.