What is it about SH4??

10-04-10, 10:09 PM

Im not trying to start a war, I'd just simply like to know, what all it is about SH4 that gets you guys to just want to play it again and again?

I mean, the graphics look great, but compared to SH3, to me it just cant match up (Although Im still running stock version completely) theres just something about it that I dont like (mainly the interface, I like SH3 w GWX 3.0's interface)

Ducimus · 10-04-10, 10:18 PM

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what all it is about SH4 that gets you guys to just want to play it again and again?

If your playing the stock game as you said, I'm going to hazard a guess that it's the mods that your not running.

A stock SH game, (3, 4, or 5) always leaves something to be desired.

ETR3(SS) · 10-04-10, 10:19 PM

A few reasons for me. One I'm American and like playing as the Americans. Two I'm a subvet so I have more of a connection to the subject matter.

I see you have GWX syndrome though. Basically in my words GWX syndrome is having played SH3 with GWX and then trying to play SH4 stock and being shocked at how horrible it is in comparison. I'm going to prescribe you a dose of TMO or RFB, take either with RSRDC.

Bothersome · 10-04-10, 10:30 PM

If you like GWX, you should take a look at Operation Monsoon for SH4. It'll shake you loose from GWX.

One thing I did like about GWX that I wish OM had is that glass/dishes rattling sound when depth charges came a bit close. That was just so cool.

10-04-10, 11:43 PM

Every time I try to download OM or I end uopp cancelling it because It says its gonna take like 5 hours :P and I dont feel like waiting that long! haha

Armistead · 10-05-10, 12:47 AM

Geesh, what kind of connection do you have. Even the largest mods shouldn't take more than 30mins on basic cable.

I agree with most, comparing stock to SH3 with mods...no camparison. You think stock has decent graphics...wait until you load a supermod, all have enviroment mods that improve graphics 100%. A mod like TMO changes the game 100%, then the other great mods. A recent mod just came out that gives us a working radar and TDC.

I played SH4 stock for a week or so and shelfed it. About another month came to the forum and found mods. I've played it nonstop since.

Haven't played UBoat additions in months, but OM is a great mod and many others..It's fun sinking those big US ships.

tomoose · 10-05-10, 09:07 AM

....is essentially comparing apples to oranges. I have SH3 w/GWX and I love it. I have SH4 with TMO and RSRD and I love it, particularly with SH4 Speech. Two different theatres, two different game experiences. I would admit that the tension of a depth charge attack is better represented in SH3 but lets face it the U-boat crews ended up getting way too much experience with depth charge attacks compared to their U.S. counterparts in the Pacific.

Fishie · 11-18-10, 10:14 AM

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Every time I try to download OM or I end uopp cancelling it because It says its gonna take like 5 hours :P and I dont feel like waiting that long! haha

Would you wait that long for GWX?

Seriously. Until you mod it, the comparison really can't be offered.

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Im not trying to start a war, I'd just simply like to know, what all it is about SH4 that gets you guys to just want to play it again and again?

I mean, the graphics look great, but compared to SH3, to me it just cant match up (Although Im still running stock version completely) theres just something about it that I dont like (mainly the interface, I like SH3 w GWX 3.0's interface)

Stock SH4- to be honest, I've never played. I took the misery of others as a very big warning, and jumped right into Trigger Maru, and then made the switch to Real Fleet Boat, and with the RSRD campaign.

I also played SH3 w/GWX and I have to say that SH4 with the RFB and RSRD is the better looking, better playing, and more entertaining venue.

That's not to say that GWX was bad- I still have it on my machine and can be seen pulling into Brest about 3 times a year

But take SH4, give me my fave command- SS-215, the Growler, toss in RFB 2.0, and RSRD, I'm in high hog heaven.

One thing I should add- the thing I REALLY like about SH4 is the options you get from having 5 additional torpedo tubes, a veritable warehouse of ordinance, and a much bigger theater to work in gets you. Getting skunked outside Hiroshima? No worries, hit Palau on the way back. Just cuz you can

SkyBaron · 11-08-10, 09:19 AM

I like playing with the winners for a change.

TheBrauerHour · 11-08-10, 06:44 PM

I have always loved the lore of the fleet boats. I like SH3, and I like SH4. Depends on the mood I am in at the time.

sharkbit · 11-10-10, 07:55 AM

I like them both. I play both(SH3 w/GWX and SH4 w/RFB(occasionally TMO-I switch back and forth) and RSRD) as the mood suits me. Both have their good and bad points.
Like others have said-you can't compare SH3 modded to SH4 unmodded.

When I got SH4 over a year ago, I didn't even try stock. I loaded a supermod immediately. I knew it would be a waste of time trying to play stock SH4. I was bored with stock SH3 in less than a week after getting the game and I knew the same would be true with SH4.

Freiwillige · 11-18-10, 04:59 AM

Another point here, People tend to play what they understand. Allot is said about the u-boat war but few things about the Pacific submarine war. I myself had the mentality of Pacific=boring. But once I researched and understood the fleet boats war better, the tactics and reasons I became more fascinated and began to sim it more.

Its truly an exciting thing to study. U-boats get the glory but failed, Fleetboats get the cold shoulder but exceeded better than even I could comprehend.

My advice is study the history and the sim will come alive.

10-04-10, 10:09 PM	#1
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	What is it about SH4?? Im not trying to start a war, I'd just simply like to know, what all it is about SH4 that gets you guys to just want to play it again and again? I mean, the graphics look great, but compared to SH3, to me it just cant match up (Although Im still running stock version completely) theres just something about it that I dont like (mainly the interface, I like SH3 w GWX 3.0's interface)

10-04-10, 10:19 PM	#3
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	A few reasons for me. One I'm American and like playing as the Americans. Two I'm a subvet so I have more of a connection to the subject matter. I see you have GWX syndrome though. Basically in my words GWX syndrome is having played SH3 with GWX and then trying to play SH4 stock and being shocked at how horrible it is in comparison. I'm going to prescribe you a dose of TMO or RFB, take either with RSRDC. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

10-05-10, 09:07 AM	#7
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Comparing SH3 w/GWX to SH4 stock... ....is essentially comparing apples to oranges. I have SH3 w/GWX and I love it. I have SH4 with TMO and RSRD and I love it, particularly with SH4 Speech. Two different theatres, two different game experiences. I would admit that the tension of a depth charge attack is better represented in SH3 but lets face it the U-boat crews ended up getting way too much experience with depth charge attacks compared to their U.S. counterparts in the Pacific.

11-08-10, 09:19 AM	#9
SkyBaron Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Atlantic Posts: 262 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 2	I like playing with the winners for a change. __________________

11-10-10, 07:55 AM	#11
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I like them both. I play both(SH3 w/GWX and SH4 w/RFB(occasionally TMO-I switch back and forth) and RSRD) as the mood suits me. Both have their good and bad points. Like others have said-you can't compare SH3 modded to SH4 unmodded. When I got SH4 over a year ago, I didn't even try stock. I loaded a supermod immediately. I knew it would be a waste of time trying to play stock SH4. I was bored with stock SH3 in less than a week after getting the game and I knew the same would be true with SH4. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

10-04-10, 10:30 PM	#4
Bothersome Planesman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 194 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	If you like GWX, you should take a look at Operation Monsoon for SH4. It'll shake you loose from GWX. One thing I did like about GWX that I wish OM had is that glass/dishes rattling sound when depth charges came a bit close. That was just so cool.

10-04-10, 11:43 PM	#5
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Every time I try to download OM or I end uopp cancelling it because It says its gonna take like 5 hours :P and I dont feel like waiting that long! haha

10-05-10, 12:47 AM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Geesh, what kind of connection do you have. Even the largest mods shouldn't take more than 30mins on basic cable. I agree with most, comparing stock to SH3 with mods...no camparison. You think stock has decent graphics...wait until you load a supermod, all have enviroment mods that improve graphics 100%. A mod like TMO changes the game 100%, then the other great mods. A recent mod just came out that gives us a working radar and TDC. I played SH4 stock for a week or so and shelfed it. About another month came to the forum and found mods. I've played it nonstop since. Haven't played UBoat additions in months, but OM is a great mod and many others..It's fun sinking those big US ships.

11-08-10, 06:44 PM	#10
TheBrauerHour Mr. Eastwood Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I have always loved the lore of the fleet boats. I like SH3, and I like SH4. Depends on the mood I am in at the time.

11-18-10, 04:59 AM	#12
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Another point here, People tend to play what they understand. Allot is said about the u-boat war but few things about the Pacific submarine war. I myself had the mentality of Pacific=boring. But once I researched and understood the fleet boats war better, the tactics and reasons I became more fascinated and began to sim it more. Its truly an exciting thing to study. U-boats get the glory but failed, Fleetboats get the cold shoulder but exceeded better than even I could comprehend. My advice is study the history and the sim will come alive.