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[WIP]Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot Scripts v3.1
TDW UI v6.7 or higher is required. ![]() Harbour Pilot Scripts This will allow a Harbour Pilot to navigate your boat out of a Harbour or the Kiel Canal. Automated waypionts are set (unseen) that your boat will follow. With one click you can sit back and enjoy the views, while you transit Kiel Canal. 3.0 Fixed errors with v3.0 3.0 Added Memel - the new starting port for OHII campaign "Coastal Waters" 2.9 Added Skagerrak route for Kiel (in and out) 2.8 fixed some errors v2.7 IMPORTANT UPDATE This version has been updated to use the new navigation commands within TDWS UI 6.7 These new commands give us two great features. Waypoint Resume With this we no longer have to start the script from the bunker only. When a navigation script starts it will now look for the closest waypoint and head towards it and will continue from there. So now you can save and end the game without having to wait until the script is complete. When you load back up, you can select and start the script again and it will continue where you left off. This will be most beneficial with the longer scripts like Bergen and Kiel Canal. However it is worth noting that the script will resume to the nearest waypoint even if it is behind you. This may cause an issue if you are in a narrow canal and you do not want to do a U turn. When this happens, you should stop the script and move forward a small distance and try again. Bufferzones This will help stop you running into traffic while you are away from your computer or running high TC. These bufferzones are like lookouts on your boat. They will continuously watchout for shipping and when a ship gets within a set distance, the lookouts will inform the XO and he will slow your boat. This gives more time for the ship to move out of the way. Once it is at a safe distance the XO will return your speed to where you had set it. There is also a second inner bufferzone. This means the ship is even closer and is now a risk to your boat. When this happens the watch crew will inform the XO and he will order a further speed reduction and drop TC down to one. When this happens you should check out where the ship is. When it looks like you will pass safely you can just increase TC again and trust the lookouts to keep you informed. Speed will return to preset values. On rare occasions you may meet a ship that is stuck directly in your path and it will not move. When this happens you should take over from the XO. To do this you do not need to stop the script. You can simpley note your heading and then adjust it until you will miss the stuck ship. When you have passed, just reset you original heading and the script will pick up and continue. V2.6 Added Toulon Harbour as this will now be a base in the new campaign mod. Fixed some paths to make use of the navigation buoys also in the new campaign Harbours Tested. Status of harbours with untrained crew are:- Brest - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. St Nazaire - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. La Pallice - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. La Spezia - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Lorient - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Bergen - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Kiel Inbound - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Kiel Outbound - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Piraeus - Tested - No. No reported errors. Wilhelmshaven - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Toulon - Tested - Yes. No errors Status of harbours with fully trained crew are:- Brest - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. St Nazaire - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. La Pallice - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. La Spezia - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Lorient - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Bergen - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Kiel Inbound - Tested - No. No reported errors. Kiel Outbound - Tested - No. No reported errors. Piraeus - Tested - Yes. No reported errors. Wilhelmshaven - Tested - No. No reported errors. Toulon - Tested - Yes. No errors For best results you should start the Pilot when you are still in the bunker. To start a pilot you need to click the Automation icon and select "Harbour Pilot" then choose the pilot for the harbour you are in and click start. After starting, you can adjust the TC (within X16 when close to wharf). When you are clear of any wharfs, you can change speed. Please do not change speed when you are in a wharf with very tight corners. When the Pilot has reached a clear path to open sea, TC will drop to x1 and a message will be diplayed allowing you to plot your next waypoint. Kiel Harbour and Canal. (see pic set here) http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1700656&postcount=201 Outbound Here you start in the bunker of Kiel Harbour and you use this one as you would any other pilot script. Pilot will navigate your boat out of the harbour and up to the canal. Once at the entrance he will continue all the way through until you reach Cuxhaven at the opening to the North Sea. As with harbour pilot, you can adjust TC straight away. Short spell of x128 is ok if away from shipping. x32 to x64 is recommended. Messages warning you of upcoming traffic will be displayed. Once you have reached the North Sea TC will drop to x1 and a message will be diplayed allowing you to plot your next waypoint. Inbound With inbound you must position your u-boat within the 15KM circle near the Harbour of Cuxhaven to start. ![]() Pilot will navigate you back through the canal and close enought to Kiel harbour for you to dock. Kiel Harbour Skagerrak Route Outbound Here you start in the bunker of Kiel Harbour and you use this one as you would any other pilot script. Pilot will navigate your boat out of the harbour and north though Skagerrak. Harbour Pilot will leave your boat as you reach the North Sea. As with harbour pilot, you can adjust TC straight away. x256 is recommended. Messages warning you of upcoming traffic will be displayed. Once you have reached the North Sea TC will drop to x1 and a message will be diplayed allowing you to plot your next waypoint. Inbound With inbound you must position your u-boat within the 100KM circle shown below. ![]() Pilot will navigate you back Skagerrak and down to Kiel harbour for you to dock. Download v3.1 Subsim http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3096 Installation Unistall any previous versions first, then use JSGME to install anytime after TDW UI mod. It is ok to overwrite the UI nav and automation folder. A huge thanks to TheDarkWraith for his automation scripts within the UI and for his help making this. ![]() Trevally Tutorials SH5 (see my tutorials here) Other automation scripts here:- Krauter - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=173805 Abd von Mupit- http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174382 Trevally- http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174400 TDW UI V4.9 or higher is required. Last edited by Trevally.; 05-07-13 at 12:54 PM. Reason: v3.0 |
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I'm not sure if they assisted uboots during war time. However those harbor pilots should have diferent "alert states" cos during an air raid vessels tried to leave port by their own. The same way the ships should stop at the outskirts of the port to let the pilot to leave to his aux boat.
Something cool to add: Ships travelling in channels like the one in Kiel were towed by one or two tugboats while this operation was supervised by a pilot from the ship itself. |
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Very impressive, though a risky solution. I planned to release such scripts for harbours, but only after adding "add_new_waypoint" command to scripts.
How did you work around the problem of not applying _new_course (and other) commands when in high TC? Did you test them for TC > 32? (curious, as I didn't find a solution for this yet). Inspirational idea, thanks. ![]()
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Hi haegemon
Thanks for the info. These scripts wont be everyones cup o tea. I for one would be wary of a pilot if I was a real uboat Captian. Im sure I would be watching him very closely, just like I do when using these scripts ![]() |
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Wish I could use this but I'll wait. I might just end up on dry land.
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Hi Abd von Mumit
Thanks, I used set heading commands to guide through each maze. The real problem with this method is speed. There are so many different things that affect speed. I use speeds that I found changed least with different variables. ie 9knots For Brest I found 9knots hard to turn in time so used 6knots. As I said above, in some boats (VIIc41 good crew) this could result in a 2 knot higher speed. I found to get the 6knot I had to click 5knots ![]() The longer the maze run the more chance for errors - thats why I found Brest the most difficult one to path allowing for slower reactions in crew and boat responses. I tested all harbours at TC x1, x2 and x4 only. I am sure x32 would either blow up my computer or end my career quick smart. Yes if we could get a command "set_waypoint, -150,2000,9,0,0,0" with -150 = relative heading 2000= distance 9=speed Perhaps with this It would have been a whole lot easier ![]() |
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erm. but isn't that what waypoints are for?
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Yes Davy but require lots of waypiont clicking.
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![]() Format of the file's contents for the waypoint info I haven't decided on yet - leaning towards lat and long coordinates for each waypoint along with speed and depth for each waypoint. |
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I'd love an auto-plot for Keil Canal, a la GWX
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Hi General
When the set waypoint command is introduced by TDW, then Keil Canal would be possible. I would also tighten up the others to prevent speed being a factor. |
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Make one for la Manche aka English Channel as well.
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What is AI for? I know it would be hard with scripting, but some form of land/shallows avoidance would be great!
Then you could set your final waypoint, where you want to end up, and the sub would avoid hazards automagically. Kind of like the travel mode button. I just wish I could get the captain off the bridge with a script command, so the crew won't refuse to dive! Anyway, the pilot would have to wear his water wings, cause I would dive with or without him aboard. ![]()
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