Mosque invester gave money to terror group.BIG SHOCK!

[Bubblehead1980]

I am absolutely shocked


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-terror-group/

[GoldenRivet]

The Muslim religion is a cancer on the world

[antikristuseke]

Every religion is.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

The Muslim religion is a cancer on the world

Islam is not a religion. It is a code of ethics for criminals, espoused by the criminal who is called Mohammed, to control his criminal exercise. it included the subservance of women, the tribute of lesser men, and the execution of non-believers in his absolute rule.

Have you seen The God Father?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Every religion is.

Some are a bit more aggressive than others.

[antikristuseke]

Now they are, but there is more than a fair share of blodshed in every religions history. Islam will reach that point some day in the future.

[Platapus]

"The donations came two years before the federal government shut down HLF and designated it a terror group."

I am absolutely shocked

Are you equally shocked that the US was giving money to the very same "charities"?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Are you equally shocked that the US was giving money to the very same "charities"?

Yes, sometimes we are dumb like that.

[Skybird]

the "Cordoba Initiative is known by the examining mind to have close ties and links to ultraorthodox jihadi and terror groups. I said that several times now, and provided link. so indeed - surprise here.

I assume the same peopple that ebfore argued that this mosque is just a bulding like any other, will see no porblem with this terror link. It remains to be a building like any other.

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Now they are, but there is more than a fair share of blodshed in every religions history.

Just that jewish and chrisatian mkissions of withc-hunting and inquisition and religious supression by war and torture are over since - how long was it?

Islam will reach that point some day in the future.

Two questions.

1. What will be left of Islam, then? Jesus never taught inquisition, war and torture. Buddha didn't as well. But Muhammad did. A small but not unimportant difference.

2. What do we do until then? Submit, so that while we all become Muslim (the precondition for peace in islam's understanding), no need is there anymore to use force against us?

Yes, the West has seen it's share of barbarism and bloodshed. The imporant point is that we are beyiodn that, and that we have learned a bot from that, and that we now see that things like colonialism and inaqwuisition are evil. Islam still does not see that. So your agument is an attempt in vein to excuse it by relativising it, and arguing with a guilt-complex that the West in your opinion should have - instead of focussing on the violence commited today by Islam.

the "Cordoba Initiative is known by the examining mind

Examining mind

[antikristuseke]

The day I submit to religious nonsense is the day I shall commit suicide. But Islam needs to be treated equally to every other religion in the public sphere, no special treatment, just equality.
And again you fall back on the fallacy of speaking of islam as if it was a single entity, it is not, there are various forms of islam and various interpretations of it, the only way to ensure good will etc. is to trade with them as Lance has repeatedly stated, this is an area where I absolutely agree with him.
As to what will be left of islam by that point, why the same hollow shell that modern christianity is, some of their rites will differ, but that is about it.

The bottom line is, everyone has the right to belive what ever bull**** they want, in that respect islam is no different than christianity.

Edit: Freedom isnt really worth much if it is only available to some but closed to others, if free men have to die to keep it that way then that is the price we must pay.

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by Platapus

"The donations came two years before the federal government shut down HLF and designated it a terror group."

I guess noone noticed this then...or perhaps they choose not to...

[razark]

Originally Posted by Biggles

I guess noone noticed this then...or perhaps they choose not to...

Platapus did.

But why let facts get in the way?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

The day I submit to religious nonsense is the day I shall commit suicide. But Islam needs to be treated equally to every other religion in the public sphere, no special treatment, just equality.

No equality for Nazis and Islam and scientoloigy and psycho-sects, Stalinists, etc. Sorry.

And again you fall back on the fallacy of speaking of islam as if it was a single entity, it is not, there are various forms of islam and various interpretations of it,

He who runs into a wall, rubs his head and denies there is a wall, cannot be helped.

the only way to ensure good will etc. is to trade with them as Lance has repeatedly stated, this is an area where I absolutely agree with him.

Good will towards totalitarianism - is not clever, no matter the cloathes it dresses itself in.

As to what will be left of islam by that point, why the same hollow shell that modern christianity is, some of their rites will differ, but that is about it.

And another poor soul thinking that Islam compares to Chrstian history. Sigh.

The bottom line is, everyone has the right to belive what ever bull**** they want, in that respect islam is no different than christianity.

If they do it inside their four walls, do not absue their chikldren to infest them while they still cannot resist, and do not hold slaves, fine. where they become part of a movement that chnages the world and the soiciety of the country and culture I live in, my tolerance comes to an abrupt end, immediately.

Edit: Freedom isnt really worth much if it is only available to some but closed to others, if free men have to die to keep it that way then that is the price we must pay.

And another obscure thimnker in the tradiiton of steve with whom I just went through all this (so I will not do it all again). Read my sig, and if you have a solution to it, let us know. Until then I rate you as a Mitläufer of those who want to destroy freedom, because if not by desire than by effect that is what you assist in.