Honest question ....

Capt. Teach · 08-31-10, 11:33 PM

Hey everyone,

I have an honest question concerning SH IV. Before I hit you with it I would like to preface by saying ... I have SHIII +GWX3.0 Gold as well as SH IV 1.5 and I play both.

It seems to me (personal opinion, not based on numerical data) that SHIII+GWX 3.0 Gold is =much= more difficult in the area of submerged evasion. I am detected easier, I am kept in contact easier, and ... it seems I am also deep 6'ed a lot easier as well. In SHIV 1.5 most of the time all I have to do is dive below the thermal layer, run silent, and do a minor direction alteration and presto ... they can't find me.

Is this just my imagination or has anyone else also noticed the same thing?

Sailor Steve · 08-31-10, 11:45 PM

Are you playing stock SH4? If so, get TMO. I understand it's a lot harder.

Capt. Teach · 08-31-10, 11:49 PM

Hi SS!

Yeah its mostly stock ... I am running some mods ... but no super-mods its pretty much SH IV 1.5 vanilla. (most of the mods Im running are just eye candy)

magic452 · 08-31-10, 11:55 PM

TMO 2.0 would be much more like GWX, so for a seasoned skipper that would be my suggestion. Much more difficult than stock SH4.
You won't just go under the thermal and turn to get clear.

Magic

Capt. Teach · 09-01-10, 12:03 AM

Ok very cool,

So sounds like I'll be snagging TMO 2.0! Thanks guys ... I was missing the heart pounding, adrenal enhanced "awwww crap" feeling I got in SH III

Capt. Teach · 09-01-10, 12:15 AM

Ugh,

Ok I feel stupid ... I can't find TMO 2.0 in the downloads ... anyone that can help?

razark · 09-01-10, 12:24 AM

Here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=132330

I'm goin' down · 09-01-10, 01:19 AM

I was disappointed by this thread. I was hoping to find the answer to a dishonest question.

Capt. Teach · 09-01-10, 01:24 AM

Thanks Razark!

Gibus · 09-01-10, 01:28 AM

Remember that the English crews ASW were much better than Japanese crews. They also had better equipment.
SH4 only reproduces the historical reality.
And then, you're in the winning side, so be happy!

Gibus

08-31-10, 11:33 PM	#1
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Honest question .... Hey everyone, I have an honest question concerning SH IV. Before I hit you with it I would like to preface by saying ... I have SHIII +GWX3.0 Gold as well as SH IV 1.5 and I play both. It seems to me (personal opinion, not based on numerical data) that SHIII+GWX 3.0 Gold is *=much=* more difficult in the area of submerged evasion. I am detected easier, I am kept in contact easier, and ... it seems I am also deep 6'ed a lot easier as well. In SHIV 1.5 most of the time all I have to do is dive below the thermal layer, run silent, and do a minor direction alteration and presto ... they can't find me. Is this just my imagination or has anyone else also noticed the same thing? __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

08-31-10, 11:45 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Are you playing stock SH4? If so, get TMO. I understand it's a lot harder. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-31-10, 11:49 PM	#3
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Hi SS! Yeah its mostly stock ... I am running some mods ... but no super-mods its pretty much SH IV 1.5 vanilla. (most of the mods Im running are just eye candy) __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

08-31-10, 11:55 PM	#4
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	TMO 2.0 would be much more like GWX, so for a seasoned skipper that would be my suggestion. Much more difficult than stock SH4. You won't just go under the thermal and turn to get clear. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

09-01-10, 12:03 AM	#5
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Ok very cool, So sounds like I'll be snagging TMO 2.0! Thanks guys ... I was missing the heart pounding, adrenal enhanced "awwww crap" feeling I got in SH III __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

09-01-10, 12:15 AM	#6
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Ugh, Ok I feel stupid ... I can't find TMO 2.0 in the downloads ... anyone that can help? __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

09-01-10, 12:24 AM	#7
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=132330 __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

09-01-10, 01:19 AM	#8
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	shucks I was disappointed by this thread. I was hoping to find the answer to a dishonest question.

09-01-10, 01:24 AM	#9
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Thanks Razark! __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

09-01-10, 01:28 AM	#10
Gibus Ensign Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: France Posts: 223 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Remember that the English crews ASW were much better than Japanese crews. They also had better equipment. SH4 only reproduces the historical reality. And then, you're in the winning side, so be happy! Gibus __________________ "Pacific is a big ocean. You don't have to find the enemy if you don't want to." Dick O'Kane