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Old 08-19-10, 08:49 AM   #1
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A Muslim woman is suing Disneyland, accusing the company's California theme park of discrimination for telling her she could not serve customers if she chose to wear a headscarf.
I sure hope this one goes absolutly nowhere. Next thing you know they will refuse to wear the Micky Mouse ears !!!

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Old 08-19-10, 09:07 AM   #2
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Default Much of that kind of events have really derailed,

and it has nothing to do with the viewer's eyes,more to it according to some is "controversial"
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Old 08-19-10, 09:12 AM   #3
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I hope she wins. It is stupid to forbid someone from wearing a scarf.

It is not like she wanted to wear a burka, in which I would not want her to win.

What exactly is the Disney Look?

This was a poor decision on the part of the Disney person and will probably end up costing Disney a lot, not only money but in image.

Disney probably has no problems taking money from Muslim customers I bet.
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This was a poor decision on the part of the Disney person and will probably end up costing Disney a lot, not only money but in image.
Maybe it will hurt their image with Muslims but somehow I don't see that as something that will affect Disney's bottom line very much.
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Old 08-19-10, 02:02 PM   #5
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Maybe it will hurt their image with Muslims but somehow I don't see that as something that will affect Disney's bottom line very much.
Yes. Time, and time again it is been proven that you just can't seem to hurt The Mouse.
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Old 08-19-10, 03:09 PM   #6
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Yes. Time, and time again it is been proven that you just can't seem to hurt The Mouse.


She thinks she can hurt me? Muahahahah, Oh that's good. She'd better bring along ten Johnnie L. Cochran's if she expects to take me on! Hah hah hah
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Old 08-19-10, 09:15 AM   #7
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I think it's quite cute...

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I think it's quite cute...

God, it looks like something from a ancient torture rituial!

Ive never been to disney world, but couldnt they just put her in a place for... I dont know, the mummy, or that other middle eastern show.
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On the one hand, workers in a position to greet customers usually have to adhere to some kind of dress code, but on the other she did ask and recieved no reply. And one has to ask whether Disney actually has a 'No Scarves' clause in their dress code.

Personally I would think they'd welcome a multinational look to their workers.
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I hope she wins. It is stupid to forbid someone from wearing a scarf.

It is not like she wanted to wear a burka, in which I would not want her to win.

What exactly is the Disney Look?

This was a poor decision on the part of the Disney person and will probably end up costing Disney a lot, not only money but in image.

Disney probably has no problems taking money from Muslim customers I bet.
Disney should be able to require employees to wear anything they want, or NOT wear anything that DISNEY wants.

The employee can choose to work elsewhere. This is not the GOVERNMENT telling her what she can wear, but a private business on their own property. Their reasons don't even matter. The employee/employer interaction is contractual, nothing else matters, IMO.
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Yet another one trying to hit the jackpot with a silly lawsuit.

The woods are full of them.
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Disney should be able to require employees to wear anything they want, or NOT wear anything that DISNEY wants.

The employee can choose to work elsewhere. This is not the GOVERNMENT telling her what she can wear, but a private business on their own property. Their reasons don't even matter. The employee/employer interaction is contractual, nothing else matters, IMO.
The EEOC disagrees.
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The EEOC disagrees.
The EEOC should be abolished, IMO.

Employers should, IMHO, be allowed to discriminate at will, frankly.

I have no problem with the GOVERNMENT not being allowed to discriminate at all (that includes sexual orientation and the military). I have no problem with the government not doing ANY business with any company that DOES discriminate, either.

That would be fair, and Constitutional, IMO. The point of the Constitution is to guarantee the rights of the people vs the STATE, not in their private interactions.

Does this mean there would be some dumb-ass racist businesses? Yeah, it does. Freedom sucks sometimes. But if the government was forbidden to deal with such establishments, that alone would make more than 99% of businesses comply anyway.

Wanting the EEOC style status quo is in effect wanting closeted discrimination, anyway. Employers hire people subjectively. You interview someone, and how you "like" them, or the vibe you get is often the critical factor in hiring them vs the many other equally qualified applicants. If that "feel" thing for a given employer happened to include race, etc...

Better to just do the Constitutional thing, and not mess with private contractual employment agreements, and stick to setting a standard for employers to follow if they ever wish to see a government CC or PO in their shop (note this would include cops stopping for coffee, people gasing up gov vehicles, virtually every business would not want to be on the wrong side of this, but it would instead be a CHOICE).
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The EEOC disagrees.
Screw the EEOC. We deal with them up here too and they are a bunch of unrealistic pains in the patootie.

Apparently they don't want us to ask for ethnic information from our students that the Feds require us to provide in order to get student loans.
And even though a criminal history will make it nearly impossible for a student to get a job in the Electronic Security field for example, they don't want us to do a criminal background check on our students, even though that information is provided online via the RI Attorney Generals office to anyone with internet access, which puts us in the position of taking 13 grand from a person to provide an education that they won't be able to use.
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Disney should be able to require employees to wear anything they want, or NOT wear anything that DISNEY wants.
I agree, as long as it is in their formal dress code and it is applied equally and fairly to all employees and not just some employees.
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