To leave or stay?

RConch · 08-17-10, 07:02 AM

I am curious how you folks approach a patrol?
Do you go to your assigned patrol grid or do you just head out to good hunting areas?
Also if you go to your grid how long do you stay?

My approach is to always try to get to the grid and stay the 24 hours. Then it becomes a guessing game whether to stay or move?
Right now I am a DH 54 in late December 1940, there is good traffic, except most ships are neutrals. I have sunk 3 enemy ships and passed on atleast a dozen neutrals in approx one month here. I have 8 eels left and approximately 60% fuel. The weather is very variable from storms to clear and calm.
It is about 6+ days between passing enemy ships.
Would you stay here longer or move?

Herr-Berbunch · 08-17-10, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rconch

I am curious how you folks approach a patrol?
Do you go to your assigned patrol grid or do you just head out to good hunting areas?
Also if you go to your grid how long do you stay?

My approach is to always try to get to the grid and stay the 24 hours. Then it becomes a guessing game whether to stay or move?
Right now I am a DH 54 in late December 1940, there is good traffic, except most ships are neutrals. I have sunk 3 enemy ships and passed on atleast a dozen neutrals in approx one month here. I have 8 eels left and approximately 60% fuel. The weather is very variable from storms to clear and calm.
It is about 6+ days between passing enemy ships.
Would you stay here longer or move?

I'd head a little North until you are adjacent with entrance to the Med, keep away from it and just patrol West/East, lots of juicy shipping around here

Herr-Berbunch · 08-17-10, 07:13 AM

Back to your original question though, I do usually head straight to patrol area and do my 24hrs before heading wherever my whim takes me, usually where there is a narrowing of waterways like Gib, English Channel, North of Ireland (not Northern Ireland). Always about 100 - 200 km away from them.

I'm about to be more adventurous and head around Norway with my latest career.

raymond6751 · 08-17-10, 07:28 AM

Most of us play for realism, which would indicate that we follow orders.

I usually get to the assigned location and place a circle around my area or mark the map with X 's to help me stay in there. Then I patrol the area within carefully.

My idea is that whoever created the missions had planned to have something sail through the assigned areas during the patrol. They are usually a repeated group that respawns or follows set waypoints.

Sailor Steve · 08-17-10, 07:54 AM

The '24 hours' is a holdover from when the game was originally intended to have scripted missions.

I stay at my assigned grid for at least two weeks. After that I roll a die. If it's a '1' I go to an adjacent grid. If not I stay where I am. After another week I'll move it it comes up '2'. BdU sent me there for a reason.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-17-10, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The '24 hours' is a holdover from when the game was originally intended to have scripted missions.

I stay at my assigned grid for at least two weeks. After that I roll a die. If it's a '1' I go to an adjacent grid. If not I stay where I am. After another week I'll move it it comes up '2'. BdU sent me there for a reason.

BdU can be wrong - D-day landings, once torpedoes expended use your U-boat?

sharkbit · 08-17-10, 08:18 AM

I play good soldier and follow orders-go to my patrol grid and patrol for 24 hours. On the way to my area, I'll go after reported convoys/contacts if I can easily intercept.

After my 24 hours is up I'll freelance a little bit and within reason-I'm not going to sail to the other side of the Atlantic to a favorite hunting ground.

If I'm close to an area where some historical event is going to take place(Invasion of Norway, D-day, etc.) I may position myself to take advantage of it on the assumption Bdu ordered me there.

I'm going to try out Sailor Steve's idea of rolling a die to introduce some randomness on whether I stay in an area or not. I don't need or necessarily want 60000 ton patrols every time by going to a favorite hunting ground every patrol. Plus, I'm in late 1943 with a couple of careers and I'm pretty happy with a few ships sunk and getting home with my hide intact.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-17-10, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

I don't need or necessarily want 60000 ton patrols every time

I do, but it never happens

I'm damned if I can hit the tugs that sit motionless next to the light-ships!

mookiemookie · 08-17-10, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

BdU can be wrong - D-day landings, once torpedoes expended use your U-boat?

It's not your place as a Commander to question BDU's orders.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-17-10, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's not your place as a Commander to question BDU's orders.

That's it, I'm going mercenary - eels for hire, who's the highest bidder?

Onkel Karl started off with his men near the fronts, then as the war went on retreated further away thus removing himself from the stresses and strains of his men and away from the effects of his decisions - much like western forces' drone operators deciding or not to release a weapon 7000 miles away. Typical manager

Pisces · 08-17-10, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I do, but it never happens

I'm damned if I can hit the tugs that sit motionless next to the light-ships!

The tugs were placed there so you'd notice the lightships. I know, it's ironical. The light-ships are part of the land-layer of the campaign and the crew ignores it. But they do notice the tugs that are part of some other layer.

As most other do, I go for the 24 hour period and then wander of to chokepoints in the vicinity. Responding to map contacts if I can reach them in time.

frau kaleun · 08-17-10, 09:48 AM

I go to my assigned grid and at the very least complete the 24 hour patrol there. I added the renown for doing that back into my game, in large part because it rewards me for resisting the temptation to ignore my "orders" and just go where I think the hunting will be good.

After I've completed the patrol assignment, it's kind of a toss-up as to what I'll do next. Generally I will stay in that area, but expand my patrol area into adjacent grids, unless I get reports of enemy activity that I have some chance of intercepting in which case I'll go where the expected action is.

If I don't get any reports that direct me towards potential action, I'll try to work my way through the grids adjacent to my original assigned area in such a way that I'm moving towards a known shipping lane if at all possible.

IIRC once I've had some success and sent in a patrol report, the reply I get says something about continuing to patrol "at [my] discretion" as long as the fuel and weapons hold out. So I tend to take that as the freedom to go where I please, within reason - if I was sent to patrol the upper Western Approaches, for instance, I'll probably continue patrolling the known shipping lanes west of Ireland rather than setting course for Gibraltar.

STEED · 08-17-10, 10:19 AM

I go where there are ships to hunt, no time for farting around.

FIREWALL · 08-17-10, 10:37 AM

I found a solution that works for me after I do my 24 hr grid patrol.

Gerald · 08-17-10, 10:45 AM

so after my 24 hours I'll take me for what is offered..

08-17-10, 07:02 AM	#1
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	To leave or stay? I am curious how you folks approach a patrol? Do you go to your assigned patrol grid or do you just head out to good hunting areas? Also if you go to your grid how long do you stay? My approach is to always try to get to the grid and stay the 24 hours. Then it becomes a guessing game whether to stay or move? Right now I am a DH 54 in late December 1940, there is good traffic, except most ships are neutrals. I have sunk 3 enemy ships and passed on atleast a dozen neutrals in approx one month here. I have 8 eels left and approximately 60% fuel. The weather is very variable from storms to clear and calm. It is about 6+ days between passing enemy ships. Would you stay here longer or move? __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

08-17-10, 07:13 AM	#3
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Back to your original question though, I do usually head straight to patrol area and do my 24hrs before heading wherever my whim takes me, usually where there is a narrowing of waterways like Gib, English Channel, North of Ireland (not Northern Ireland). Always about 100 - 200 km away from them. I'm about to be more adventurous and head around Norway with my latest career. __________________

08-17-10, 07:28 AM	#4
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Realism Most of us play for realism, which would indicate that we follow orders. I usually get to the assigned location and place a circle around my area or mark the map with X 's to help me stay in there. Then I patrol the area within carefully. My idea is that whoever created the missions had planned to have something sail through the assigned areas during the patrol. They are usually a repeated group that respawns or follows set waypoints. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

08-17-10, 07:54 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The '24 hours' is a holdover from when the game was originally intended to have scripted missions. I stay at my assigned grid for at least two weeks. After that I roll a die. If it's a '1' I go to an adjacent grid. If not I stay where I am. After another week I'll move it it comes up '2'. BdU sent me there for a reason. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-17-10, 08:18 AM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I play good soldier and follow orders-go to my patrol grid and patrol for 24 hours. On the way to my area, I'll go after reported convoys/contacts if I can easily intercept. After my 24 hours is up I'll freelance a little bit and within reason-I'm not going to sail to the other side of the Atlantic to a favorite hunting ground. If I'm close to an area where some historical event is going to take place(Invasion of Norway, D-day, etc.) I may position myself to take advantage of it on the assumption Bdu ordered me there. I'm going to try out Sailor Steve's idea of rolling a die to introduce some randomness on whether I stay in an area or not. I don't need or necessarily want 60000 ton patrols every time by going to a favorite hunting ground every patrol. Plus, I'm in late 1943 with a couple of careers and I'm pretty happy with a few ships sunk and getting home with my hide intact. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

08-17-10, 09:48 AM	#12
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I go to my assigned grid and at the very least complete the 24 hour patrol there. I added the renown for doing that back into my game, in large part because it rewards me for resisting the temptation to ignore my "orders" and just go where I think the hunting will be good. After I've completed the patrol assignment, it's kind of a toss-up as to what I'll do next. Generally I will stay in that area, but expand my patrol area into adjacent grids, unless I get reports of enemy activity that I have some chance of intercepting in which case I'll go where the expected action is. If I don't get any reports that direct me towards potential action, I'll try to work my way through the grids adjacent to my original assigned area in such a way that I'm moving towards a known shipping lane if at all possible. IIRC once I've had some success and sent in a patrol report, the reply I get says something about continuing to patrol "at [my] discretion" as long as the fuel and weapons hold out. So I tend to take that as the freedom to go where I please, within reason - if I was sent to patrol the upper Western Approaches, for instance, I'll probably continue patrolling the known shipping lanes west of Ireland rather than setting course for Gibraltar.

08-17-10, 10:19 AM	#13
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I go where there are ships to hunt, no time for farting around. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-17-10, 10:37 AM	#14
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I found a solution that works for me after I do my 24 hr grid patrol. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-17-10, 10:45 AM	#15
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	I usually go to my grid if nothing stops me up before, so after my 24 hours I'll take me for what is offered.. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie