GM's 'Volt'...

SteamWake · 07-28-10, 11:56 AM

A bit pricey I would say... good luck with that GM

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Originally Posted by The Washington Post

The long-anticipated Chevrolet Volt, General Motors' electric car, will cost $41,000, the company announced Tuesday, leaving consumers to decide whether its environmental appeal is worth a price far above that of similarly sized conventional autos.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...705834_pf.html

ETR3(SS) · 07-28-10, 12:18 PM

If I could sum up GM in one word it would be, Clueless. Maybe they should get together with Toyota. Toyota could show them how to make a good inexpensive car and GM could show them how to make a gas pedal that doesn't get a mind of it's own.

nikimcbee · 07-28-10, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

A bit pricey I would say... good luck with that GM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...705834_pf.html

Your welcome UAW

krashkart · 07-28-10, 01:44 PM

At $41,000 does it classify as a luxury car or a novelty?

Weiss Pinguin · 07-28-10, 02:20 PM

Well at least it's not as buttugly as the Prius

SteamWake · 07-28-10, 02:42 PM

Anyone catch the range on this thing?

ITs a whopping 40 miles !

I dont know how the whole generator thing works but I dont belive it is like a hybrid where it 'switches' to internal combustion engine.

40 miles... That would get me to work and halfway home.

Wonder how long you have to charge to get that 40 miles.

Oh and another thing. I have this same concearn with hybrids. If god forbid you get in an accident in this thing and somehow short out the batterys it could cause a rather large explosion with extremly toxic smome.

Then what do we do with the heavy metals once the batterys will no longer hold a charge?

WarlordATF · 07-28-10, 03:13 PM

What they don't want to tell you is that the disposal of the batteries from these hybrids does just as much if not more damage to the enviroment than fossil fuels. These Batteries have to be replaced fairly on a fairly regular basis and the used ones don't just vanish. I guess it makes the clueless feel good, but the reality is a different story.

Tchocky · 07-28-10, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Anyone catch the range on this thing?

ITs a whopping 40 miles !

I dont know how the whole generator thing works but I dont belive it is like a hybrid where it 'switches' to internal combustion engine.

40 miles... That would get me to work and halfway home.

Wonder how long you have to charge to get that 40 miles.

http://gm-volt.com/2008/09/27/how-ch...he-chevy-volt/

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The battery is recharged by the engine, but only as little as possible. The point is to avoid petroleum use.
Here’s how it works.
For the first 40 miles, the fully charged battery (80% state of charge) powers the electric motor. Regenerative braking can help recharge the battery to a certain extent.
When the vehicle drives past 40 miles, the battery reaches a 30% or so state of charge. So called “the customer depletion point”, preventing the battery from going below that sustains the batteries longevity. Lithium-ion cells don’t survive as long when they are deep discharged, and GM has the goal of 10 years/150,000 miles.
At the customer depletion point the combustion engine fires up and operates at one of several optimized fixed RPMs. The engine turns the generator, producing electricity.

Platapus · 07-28-10, 03:36 PM

I like the technology of the volt. I would just feel a lot more confident in it if it were not a GM car.

40 miles will get me to and from work and for a commuter car that will work out well. And, as already posted, you can go a lot further when the gas - electric series kicks in.

I wonder how this will sell compared to the Nisan Leaf which is a different technology.

I am kinda glad this technology is coming out in consumer cars. It is only going to get better.

I am still waiting for a nice diesel - electric series comes out. Peugeot 307 had it and I hear that Peugeot is considering marketing in the US again.

yubba · 07-31-10, 06:40 PM

The ev 1 built in the 90s got 150 miles on a charge and they crushed it. EV 1 the car featured in who killed the electric car. What a joke

breadcatcher101 · 07-31-10, 07:26 PM

Forty miles at the most. If you drive fast, use the a/c, lights, anything else it is less. Also depends on the temperture.

As to charge, 10 hours.

mookiemookie · 07-31-10, 07:56 PM

I'd go with a Tesla

ETR3(SS) · 07-31-10, 08:16 PM

That license plate is epic.

GoldenRivet · 07-31-10, 08:47 PM

This is why we shouldnt trust one of the dinosaur auto companies to build the new cutting edge environmentally friendly vehicles.

they have a cute little box that they are used to thinking well inside of.

Taxpayer money is used to socialize GM and this "volt" is the turd they finally manage to squat down and push out?

give me an effin break.

there are independent, small car companies out there who are building cars with 4 times the battery range of that piece of crap... Im just at a loss for words.

why was the money not invested into these companies?

just backwards washington DC thinking is all it was.

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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101

Forty miles at the most. If you drive fast, use the a/c, lights, anything else it is less. Also depends on the temperture.

As to charge, 10 hours.

so lets see... if you have a 30 mile commute, and if you work some nights until 9pm like me, get home around 9:30 or 10:00 and have to turn around for a 6am departure, what then? leave out the next morning on 7 hours charging - maybe 8... and run dead within 10 miles of work?

Task Force · 07-31-10, 09:11 PM

Ya know, I dont like these eletric cars... just think when they become more popular!

That phrase would no longer be Stop, look and listen! Just Stop, look, and pray a crazy driver dosent blast around the Corner!

I dont know, If I had my choice between one of those, and a normal car with a gasoline/petrol engine... ill take the after choice.

But just Think! If this thing catches on a road trip would never be the same.

07-28-10, 12:18 PM	#2
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07-28-10, 02:42 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Anyone catch the range on this thing? ITs a whopping 40 miles ! I dont know how the whole generator thing works but I dont belive it is like a hybrid where it 'switches' to internal combustion engine. 40 miles... That would get me to work and halfway home. Wonder how long you have to charge to get that 40 miles. Oh and another thing. I have this same concearn with hybrids. If god forbid you get in an accident in this thing and somehow short out the batterys it could cause a rather large explosion with extremly toxic smome. Then what do we do with the heavy metals once the batterys will no longer hold a charge? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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WarlordATF Frogman Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Florida Posts: 288 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	What they don't want to tell you is that the disposal of the batteries from these hybrids does just as much if not more damage to the enviroment than fossil fuels. These Batteries have to be replaced fairly on a fairly regular basis and the used ones don't just vanish. I guess it makes the clueless feel good, but the reality is a different story. __________________

07-28-10, 03:36 PM	#9
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I like the technology of the volt. I would just feel a lot more confident in it if it were not a GM car. 40 miles will get me to and from work and for a commuter car that will work out well. And, as already posted, you can go a lot further when the gas - electric series kicks in. I wonder how this will sell compared to the Nisan Leaf which is a different technology. I am kinda glad this technology is coming out in consumer cars. It is only going to get better. I am still waiting for a nice diesel - electric series comes out. Peugeot 307 had it and I hear that Peugeot is considering marketing in the US again. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-28-10, 01:44 PM	#4
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	At $41,000 does it classify as a luxury car or a novelty?

07-31-10, 06:40 PM	#10
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	nothing like going backwards GM The ev 1 built in the 90s got 150 miles on a charge and they crushed it. EV 1 the car featured in who killed the electric car. What a joke

07-31-10, 07:26 PM	#11
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Forty miles at the most. If you drive fast, use the a/c, lights, anything else it is less. Also depends on the temperture. As to charge, 10 hours.

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	That license plate is epic. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Ya know, I dont like these eletric cars... just think when they become more popular! That phrase would no longer be Stop, look and listen! Just Stop, look, and pray a crazy driver dosent blast around the Corner! I dont know, If I had my choice between one of those, and a normal car with a gasoline/petrol engine... ill take the after choice. But just Think! If this thing catches on a road trip would never be the same. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"