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View Poll Results: Unexpected Scenario!
Crashdive 26 60.47%
Engage planes with flak guns 0 0%
Engage planes and vessels with flak guns and deck gun 2 4.65%
Go girect to PD for attack 8 18.60%
I`Dont care there are plenty of ships during the journey 7 16.28%
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Old 06-23-10, 12:06 PM   #1
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Unexpected Scenario!

The main reason to this poll is how you act in some activity, or situation, so lets begin.
You sailing from Brest and your mission grid is DR31,the weather condition is good (light cloudy) the time is 19.00 after dusk in Jan. 1943,your are now in BF58,when your WO spotted 4 vessel in short-range,2 merchant and 2 DD.and you react for some action,but just when you proceeding,2 low flying planes come out from the clouds,so what would you do
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1.Crash-dive (escape)

2.Engage the plane with flak guns and then go to PD

3.Engage plane and vessels (flak and deck gun)

4.Go direct to PD for attack

5. I don`t care there are plenty of ships along the journey,so I dive so deep as I can and run away
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1,5: Best chances for living to fight another day.

2: If the DDs haven't already spotted you, they certainly will once you open fire on the planes. If they're at short range they'll be on you like white on rice long before you can do significant damage to either plane, who will also probably be attacking you with whatever weapons they have. Even if you somehow make it to periscope depth relatively unscathed, your chances of taking out both destroyers with eels before being destroyed or having to dive deep to repair damage and dodge continuing attacks from above are basically nil.

3: You cannot outgun two destroyers in a surface artillery battle, even without enemy planes attacking from above. Chances of winning this one on the surface are also basically nil.

4: IF* you have not yet been spotted by either the enemy planes or ships, AND you are already in position to get off a quick torpedo attack on one of the destroyers without cruising around with your 'scope up, it might be possible to take one shot from p-depth and then get away clean provided you run silent and dive deep and fast enough as soon as you fire. Still not a great option IMO as it's almost guaranteed that you will come under attack if you actually hit something; it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to take out both destroyers before that happens, and against the planes you can do nothing.


*This is a really big "if." If you've spotted them, it's a good bet that they've spotted you.
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1,5: Best chances for living to fight another day.

2: If the DDs haven't already spotted you, they certainly will once you open fire on the planes. If they're at short range they'll be on you like white on rice long before you can do significant damage to either plane, who will also probably be attacking you with whatever weapons they have. Even if you somehow make it to periscope depth relatively unscathed, your chances of taking out both destroyers with eels before being destroyed or having to dive deep to repair damage and dodge continuing attacks from above are basically nil.

3: You cannot outgun two destroyers in a surface artillery battle, even without enemy planes attacking from above. Chances of winning this one on the surface are also basically nil.

4: IF* you have not yet been spotted by either the enemy planes or ships, AND you are already in position to get off a quick torpedo attack on one of the destroyers without cruising around with your 'scope up, it might be possible to take one shot from p-depth and then get away clean provided you run silent and dive deep and fast enough as soon as you fire. Still not a great option IMO as it's almost guaranteed that you will come under attack if you actually hit something; it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to take out both destroyers before that happens, and against the planes you can do nothing.


*This is a really big "if." If you've spotted them, it's a good bet that they've spotted you.
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i think we should hold a moment of silence for the 4 captains who chose to attack
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i think we should hold a moment of silence for the 4 captains who chose to attack
And want to clean up the water in "the death of valley"

The post above about ASW, and the progress in the war can be various in many way.So least 4 Captain see more than suicide.

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And want to clean up the water in "the death of valley"

The post above about ASW, and the progress in the war can be various in many way.So least 4 Captain see more than suicide.

Renown and reputation is substitute.

i dont care what year it is. if your even in hydrophone range of some destroyers, and you engage some planes, the destroyers will be tearing you up with bofors before you shoot the planes down. some of the destroyers seem to haul 27+ knots, so itll only take them 2 minutes to get into visual range, and right then and there youll have accurate 5 inch gun fire from about 6 to 10 guns. just one of those and youre down.

and if you do dive and engage the ships instead of the planes, theyll still be in the area when you hit the ships, and they will strafe and bomb you. and where there are 2 planes, there are always more.

so in the words of our lady captain

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i dont care what year it is. if your even in hydrophone range of some destroyers, and you engage some planes, the destroyers will be tearing you up with bofors before you shoot the planes down. some of the destroyers seem to haul 27+ knots, so itll only take them 2 minutes to get into visual range, and right then and there youll have accurate 5 inch gun fire from about 6 to 10 guns. just one of those and youre down.

and if you do dive and engage the ships instead of the planes, theyll still be in the area when you hit the ships, and they will strafe and bomb you. and where there are 2 planes, there are always more.

so in the words of our lady captain
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Look-up.they are more and 4 at the moment.....

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i think we should hold a moment of silence for the 4 captains who chose to attack
I now your rational way,but pretend at captain,are professional and his work are promise,so this is a fast and "risky" determination so he take a well-meant chance.he now already the limitation to engagement,is this logical?

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