How do you make this game a challenge

[rascal101]

OK just reinstalled and patched now have a bunch of mods installed, see below - have game settings set to full reality except map updates and externals view

Its Oct 1938 - just cam up on a large convoy south west of England - sank 12 ships; admittedly I used the deck gun on some, not one dud torpedo. The fact is I just got bored with the attack and buggered off with two torps still in the tubes - I mean I literally just got bored

Alright there were no escorts but this kind of score simply does not reflect reality in any way - in real life even the most hardened Aces would take two or three trips to bag this many ships

Tell me how can one make this game a real simulation of WW2 U-Boat warfare at the moment it seems to be very light indeed even with the Elite Campaign installed - maybe it gets better when you get escorted convoys but I mean not one dud

Please help this game just is no challenge - is there any way we can mod the game play - sure there are some great mods to make parts look good but there doesn’t seem to be much by way of game play improvements

Any suggestions - is anyone working on something exciting

Here are my activated mods:

AilBubbles 1.0
AilClimateZones 1.0
AilClouds 3.0
AilSmoke 1.7
BRF 1.1 HP balance
BRF 1.3 full
Damage assessment
Detailed Caustics 1.0
Dooms Decks for VIIC 1.2
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
Wamphyri's Plane Mod
Goodbye Pac-Man v1.01
Nauticalwolf's Damage and Torpedo UI (b) Mod V1.1
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
North Atlantic Green 1.0
Old Style Explosions V1.1
Reduced Mission Tonnage v01
Reboot's Water Drips 1.0
Reboot's Hot Soup 1.0
sobers hatch mod
sobers multi color mod
SoundSinclair
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_0_byTheDarkWraith
Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC_SH5_v120
U-boat Historical Specifications 1.3
Feared Hunters 2.1
The Elite Campaign 1.0
Environment 1.2_MOD
ImprovedWaves_Improved Pitch&Roll
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt faces
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
No Umark
Periscope Rework For Darkwraiths UI mods. by Emtguf
EngineSoundsImproved_v1.0
Reaper7 HiRes UI Beta V1.0 & Recognition Manual V2.0
Player Guidance Icons Removed v1.0

Best Regards to all subsimmers

Rascal

[zack]

yesterday i have sunk in 3 month 500 000 brt of ships,very bored
SH5 is a eyecandy joke

[ReallyDedPoet]

Remember that early on and through the " Happy Times " it was basically a crap-shoot for the Kriegsmarine Especially with the development of subs that had longer ranges and larger torpedo load-outs. Add in the opening of the coastal bases along occupied France....

Some folks are wanting the AI to be in the early years what is was say from mid-1941 until the end of the war, and that is not accurate\realistic.

In saying that the AI is far from perfect, but I have used some of those mods you have listed and have found the game to be more challenging. Noticed you had this one installed: Reduced Mission Tonnage v01. Take it out as it cuts some requirements by half.

[mobucks]

turn off map updates, bite the bullet and turn off external cam ( i would find myself totally exploiting it with MCU off), and play a patrol like that.

If you cant do the manual target math just motor right on into the convoy and fire some 400m hail marys.

[SteelViking]

First of all, you should not base how difficult you think the game is on one attack, on an un-escorted convoy(which I have only ever seen 2 of). Hang in there until you start getting escorted convoys, and see if you don't enjoy it much more. Also, no offence to ddrgn, but I prefer the U-Boat killer mod over Feared Hunters for enemy AI enhancements.

In fact, thanks to the U-Boat Killer mod, my boat is currently heavily damaged from some well placed depth charge, and I am limping back to my home port.

Also, you have a couple of conflicting mods in there, so you will not be getting the full effect of some of them.

I hope this advice helps your SH5 experience.

Edit: That's 2 un-escorted convoys in 1.8 million grt sunk.

[M4XDmG]

Totally agree with mobucks, turn of map contacts and external camera. Actually find somewhat strange that you call the game unrealistic and want something harder, but still use map contacts...

[ddrgn]

Use The Elite Campaign 1.1 as 1.0 needed updating after the patch.

[THE_MASK]

Go into
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Total_Germany\ca mpaign and change the tonnage to a higher value .What is needed is an entire campaign rewrite .

[rascal101]

Hi Mr Deadpoet thanks for your advise

I installed the Reduced Tonnage mod because the target tonnage in the vanilla game were so silly - if a single boat could have scored the kind of tonnage they were asking Germany would have won the war hands down

Any way I've updated the elete campagn and followed some of the other suggestions in this thread so hopefully my game experience will change

Still wondering if any one is working on a real big makeover for this game - it looks good but well it has none of the re-playability of SH3

Thanks to all for the positive suggestions and input

R

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Remember that early on and through the " Happy Times " it was basically a crap-shoot for the Kriegsmarine Especially with the development of subs that had longer ranges and larger torpedo load-outs. Add in the opening of the coastal bases along occupied France....

Some folks are wanting the AI to be in the early years what is was say from mid-1941 until the end of the war, and that is not accurate\realistic.

In saying that the AI is far from perfect, but I have used some of those mods you have listed and have found the game to be more challenging. Noticed you had this one installed: Reduced Mission Tonnage v01. Take it out as it cuts some requirements by half.

[kylania]

Originally Posted by rascal101

Still wondering if any one is working on a real big makeover for this game - it looks good but well it has none of the re-playability of SH3

As all the other threads with this question in it state, of course someone is working on something somewhere, but till we know for sure the last patch is out, and some critical bugs have been fixed (minefields anyone?) you probably won't see a major total mod being released.

[THE_MASK]

What about the No Surface Hydrophone v2 mod .
I modded the TC files so it takes a lot longer to play .

TimeStop=0
RealTime=1
LandProximity=1,32
CriticalDamage=1,32
CrewEfficiency=256
AirEnemyDetected=1,32
SoundEffects=2
CharacterAnim=32
FriendDetected=1,32
EnemyDetected=1,32
RadioReport=1,32
Particles=32
PrayState=1,32
HunterState=1,32
3DRender=32
Maximum=256,32

[rascal101]

Interesting - I might just start fiddling with this - I wonder - I have heard there are a couple of missions in campaigns later in the game that require your sub to sneak into enemy harbours and take photos or drop off spys - which is probably all very exciting but unlikely to have happened - No German naval high commander would have risked an entire Uboat and its crew on this kind of mission, its a fantasy left over from some of the more ridiculous spy novels of the 70's and 80's

Sure the allies dropped a few observers or spys behind enemy lines, thats cos the allied submarine fleet in the Atlantic was relativly unemployed in comparison to the U-Boats which were 100% engaged, but even then it was a rare event and not a standard mission

So if you can edit the tonnage or the campaign Projects I wonder if one could delete these unrealistic missions - has any one tried this

Best Regards to subsim community

R

Originally Posted by sober

Go into
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Campaigns\CampaignProjects\Total_Germany\ca mpaign and change the tonnage to a higher value .What is needed is an entire campaign rewrite .

[AW-MOE]

I play with map contact updates on but external and everything else off, I also occasionally turn off the TDC and "shoot from the hip".

But its early in the war, its supposed to be easy. Try turning off external cam.