Are Ships To Scale V Uboat ...

walsh2509 · 04-15-10, 09:55 AM

Are Ships To Scale V Uboat ... and your view of them ..

I played the Bismark mission last night and sailed along side this huge battleship , the stern of my Uboat where I was standing was 140 ft from the Bismark as it slowly sailed past at 5knts. I was thinking , should it not look bigger ?

mcarlsonus · 04-15-10, 10:30 AM

140 METERS maybe (nearly 460 feet); definitely not, "140 ft from the Bismark," (ahem, BismarCk!), which would be only 42.7 meters.

Bismarck was 251 meters/823 feet overall.

captainprid · 04-15-10, 10:54 AM

Nice screen shot though

Seaman_Hornsby · 04-15-10, 11:03 AM

This is something I've always felt about SH3 and up myself. From your first person view on the bridge you don't quite get the feeling you are sailing alongside large vessels. The scale just doesn't seem quite right.

I've always assumed it is a resource decision; make the ship models a smaller size to keep hardware requirements reasonable.

DarkFish · 04-15-10, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaman_Hornsby

I've always assumed it is a resource decision; make the ship models a smaller size to keep hardware requirements reasonable.

well this definitely not since the size of a 3D model doesn't matter for hardware requirements. It only depends on the number of polygons visible.

I think it's just some kind of optical illusion. I assume that because we're not able to see it in real 3D, the models seems smaller.

Seaman_Hornsby · 04-15-10, 12:05 PM

Ah, but if the model is scaled up, the polygon count may need to go up as well to keep the detail level. Think about rounded surfaces. What may look fine at one size may require a few more polygons to maintain the round shape when scaled up.

Regardless, here are some comparison shots of BBs:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/h55274.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/h61483.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/n63999.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/n24148.jpg

captainprid · 04-15-10, 12:09 PM

Nice pictures there, shame there is nothing in the foreground for scale

kylania · 04-15-10, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by captainprid

Nice pictures there, shame there is nothing in the foreground for scale

Here's the HMS Nelson battleship with the moon in the foreground to establish scale.

robbo180265 · 04-15-10, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kylania

Here's the HMS Nelson battleship with the moon in the foreground to establish scale.

Chad · 04-15-10, 12:49 PM

Oh that's mean

Sailor Steve · 04-15-10, 01:06 PM

Not a photo, but...

kylania · 04-15-10, 01:31 PM

captainprid · 04-15-10, 02:31 PM

Er.... No, I was thinking more along the lines of this. With the small boat in the foreground

Placoderm · 04-15-10, 02:49 PM

Great comparison image, Kylania!

Placoderm · 04-15-10, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by captainprid

Er.... No, I was thinking more along the lines of this. With the small boat in the foreground

It is interesting in that photo how effective the paint job is on the Bismark in camouflaging the true profile of the ship. At first glance, it really does appear to be a much smaller profile and a different class of ship.

04-15-10, 09:55 AM	#1
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Are Ships To Scale V Uboat ... Are Ships To Scale V Uboat ... and your view of them .. I played the Bismark mission last night and sailed along side this huge battleship , the stern of my Uboat where I was standing was 140 ft from the Bismark as it slowly sailed past at 5knts. I was thinking , should it not look bigger ?

04-15-10, 11:03 AM	#4
Seaman_Hornsby Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 203 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	This is something I've always felt about SH3 and up myself. From your first person view on the bridge you don't quite get the feeling you are sailing alongside large vessels. The scale just doesn't seem quite right. I've always assumed it is a resource decision; make the ship models a smaller size to keep hardware requirements reasonable. __________________ Friends, when once a man is launched on such an adventure as this, he must bid farewell to hopes and fears, otherwise death or deliverance will both come too late to save his honor and his reason.

04-15-10, 12:05 PM	#6
Seaman_Hornsby Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 203 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	Ah, but if the model is scaled up, the polygon count may need to go up as well to keep the detail level. Think about rounded surfaces. What may look fine at one size may require a few more polygons to maintain the round shape when scaled up. Regardless, here are some comparison shots of BBs: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/h55274.jpg http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/h61483.jpg http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/n63999.jpg http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...000/n24148.jpg __________________ Friends, when once a man is launched on such an adventure as this, he must bid farewell to hopes and fears, otherwise death or deliverance will both come too late to save his honor and his reason.

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Chad ACE Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,274 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Oh that's mean __________________

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04-15-10, 10:30 AM	#2
mcarlsonus Weps Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 362 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	140 METERS maybe (nearly 460 feet); definitely not, "140 ft from the Bismark," (ahem, BismarCk!), which would be only 42.7 meters. Bismarck was 251 meters/823 feet overall.

04-15-10, 10:54 AM	#3
captainprid Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blackpool, England Posts: 347 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Nice screen shot though

04-15-10, 12:09 PM	#7
captainprid Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blackpool, England Posts: 347 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Nice pictures there, shame there is nothing in the foreground for scale

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04-15-10, 02:31 PM	#13
captainprid Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blackpool, England Posts: 347 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Er.... No, I was thinking more along the lines of this. With the small boat in the foreground

04-15-10, 02:49 PM	#14
Placoderm Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 142 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Great comparison image, Kylania! __________________ ....and on the eight day, god created merchant ships to ply the waters between the lands, and unto which was created a weakness to the holy torpedo so that man could blow thy living snot out of them. ...And all was good. "Making a decision to not make a decision would still involve a decision-making process and such a thing has not happened." -sorlim, UBIsoft Community Developer