Post your crash bugs here

Paul Riley · 03-21-10, 04:35 AM

Having had a stable game for a long time now I have recently (over the last 2 days) experienced two quite nasty crashes resulting in me having to quit and reload an earlier saved game.Now I have a few ideas of what could be going wrong and I thought it would be useful to have a place to post all these crashes and bugs (thats if its not been done before) before resorting to more unconventional and violent solutions.
I will begin with what I have experienced so far -

Crash 1
This happened the day before yesterday.I had just broke out of the English channel on my way to my patrol grid just south of Ireland.We spotted a distant merchant heading our way.To cut the story short I sank it and then saved my game just after.Upon reloading the game it would freeze for about 2 secs then a popup would appear saying 'SH3 has just encountered a problem,sorry for the inconvenience' blah blah blah.
Cause?
This has been discussed many times in the past,and sadly it escaped my memory,but what may have happened was,first I saved the game submerged,and second it was in VERY close proximity to a sinking ship,say some 300-400m.
It seems both these factors contribute greatly to the chances of the game crashing.

Crash 2
This happened last night.Upon reloading my 2nd patrol due to the earlier crash I was just passing Dunkirk on my way into the channel again,and decided to save the game as it was getting late and my night vision was faltering

Upon reloading the game the same crash occured as described in 'crash 1',bringing me to a POSSIBLE cause.
Cause?
As there is no obvious cause for this one I can only assume it is linked to either Dunkirk in particular or the channel,meaning both these areas could be more prone to crashes than other areas.Maybe you have also encountered this behaviour with specific areas?

Its also interesting to note that before I left port I had installed quite an old mod called 'improved smoke' by 'iambecomelife' I think the author's name is.I am wondering if this mod could be conflicting with either GWX3 or Racerboy's SH4 effects? I am also today going to save my career and fresh install everything,only this time without the res fix hack and improved smoke mod,as before these two were installed my game was rock solid,without a single crash!,EVER!
Finally,I would like to hope this thread is stickied in the near future as it is very important and could save a lot of broken knuckles,cracked monitor screens and failed relationships/marriages.
I look forward to your experiences and comments.

03-21-10, 04:57 AM

Saving "too close to ports" is also a no no.
I haved saved fairly close to Hartlepool, but have never had cause to use those saves.

I used to get into trouble saving too close to my own port.
(Insurance against a computer crash while entering port.)

Paul Riley · 03-21-10, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Saving "too close to ports" is also a no no.
I haved saved fairly close to Hartlepool, but have never had cause to use those saves.

I used to get into trouble saving too close to my own port.
(Insurance against a computer crash while entering port.)

My two crashes could be linked to this also!,because in the distance I could JUST see the lights of Dunkirk! why would this crash the game though?if it IS linked to this it would be extremely crippling,especially when getting tired and you really need to save

Thanks for the tip

03-21-10, 05:13 AM

I don't know the "why". Perhaps due to spawning or unseen trafik?

My old instalation used crash south of Norge/Norway.
When I would reload a save from there, it would crash shortly after.
I then learned that saving in Heavy Fog is also a no no.

Admittedly, this stuff can make SH3 a pain when one would realy rather be in bed.

Paul Riley · 03-21-10, 05:30 AM

I never realised such a fantastic game like this could be so unstable!,I mean I have hardly EVER had any crashes since I got it in 2005.The last 2 crashes are really the only times its ever crashed for me

I am DEF thinking the higher resolutions hack could be at fault for me,maybe something I didnt do/activate etc.I dont really need it anyway,I was always happy at 1024 resolution (plus 2x AA),and GWX with other mods soon helps take your mind off higher resolutions.

03-21-10, 05:37 AM

Wise decision.

One of the first things I did after installing was to turn the "particle density" down to about 12%. Game runs great, and I don't see any negative effects on anything.

sharkbit · 03-21-10, 01:19 PM

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Crash 2
This happened last night.Upon reloading my 2nd patrol due to the earlier crash I was just passing Dunkirk on my way into the channel again,and decided to save the game as it was getting late and my night vision was faltering

Upon reloading the game the same crash occured as described in 'crash 1',bringing me to a POSSIBLE cause.

I've seen a couple of times on this forum about mysterious crashes around Dunkirk on more than one occasion.

It's funny-I've broke every rule in the book about saving close to land, close to ships, submerged and have never had a problem-knock on wood.

One bug I've come across that causes a crash a couple of times is moving your nav map around and getting Russia centered on screen. The game has crashed a couple of times I've done that.

Most crashes I've had earlly on were hardware related on my old rig. My power supply fan went out and my case had no case fan. I would get a CTD after about an hour of playing. After doing some RAM upgrades and the like, the little light came on finally-heat.

Installed a case fan, changed out the power supply, and blew the dust out of the case.
Voila!

No more CTD's.

I just had a recent problem with CTD's due to some mod conflicts due to installation order. I got that taken care of Friday and have actually been able to play some this weekend instead of pulling my hair out.

flag4 · 03-21-10, 01:30 PM

'tis the old advice i got when i joined subsim and experiernced crashes:

not near land.

not near other ships.

not near sinking ships.

...as far away as possible from any moving/solid enviroment except the sea!!

ps: plan your gaming around your time - though i realise this can be difficult.

Chisum · 03-21-10, 05:21 PM

Interresting thread.
Actually, I have a bug with the deckgun, it's not right, to many on the left, the visor is not correct and sometimes the correct middle is out of the screen.
And I don't know what can I do.

KL-alfman · 03-21-10, 09:27 PM

I remember this bug was already reported.
though forgot the solution, wait till Jimbuna shows up.
he can surely help you.

Paul Riley · 03-22-10, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chisum

Interresting thread.
Actually, I have a bug with the deckgun, it's not right, to many on the left, the visor is not correct and sometimes the correct middle is out of the screen.
And I don't know what can I do.

Give it a few good bangs with a sledge hammer?

frau kaleun · 03-22-10, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Give it a few good bangs with a sledge hammer?

My LI calls that "percussive maintenance."

03-21-10, 04:35 AM	#1
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Post your crash bugs here Having had a stable game for a long time now I have recently (over the last 2 days) experienced two quite nasty crashes resulting in me having to quit and reload an earlier saved game.Now I have a few ideas of what could be going wrong and I thought it would be useful to have a place to post all these crashes and bugs (thats if its not been done before) before resorting to more unconventional and violent solutions. I will begin with what I have experienced so far - Crash 1 This happened the day before yesterday.I had just broke out of the English channel on my way to my patrol grid just south of Ireland.We spotted a distant merchant heading our way.To cut the story short I sank it and then saved my game just after.Upon reloading the game it would freeze for about 2 secs then a popup would appear saying 'SH3 has just encountered a problem,sorry for the inconvenience' blah blah blah. Cause? This has been discussed many times in the past,and sadly it escaped my memory,but what may have happened was,first I saved the game submerged,and second it was in VERY close proximity to a sinking ship,say some 300-400m. It seems both these factors contribute greatly to the chances of the game crashing. Crash 2 This happened last night.Upon reloading my 2nd patrol due to the earlier crash I was just passing Dunkirk on my way into the channel again,and decided to save the game as it was getting late and my night vision was faltering Upon reloading the game the same crash occured as described in 'crash 1',bringing me to a POSSIBLE cause. Cause? As there is no obvious cause for this one I can only assume it is linked to either Dunkirk in particular or the channel,meaning both these areas could be more prone to crashes than other areas.Maybe you have also encountered this behaviour with specific areas? Its also interesting to note that before I left port I had installed quite an old mod called 'improved smoke' by 'iambecomelife' I think the author's name is.I am wondering if this mod could be conflicting with either GWX3 or Racerboy's SH4 effects? I am also today going to save my career and fresh install everything,only this time without the res fix hack and improved smoke mod,as before these two were installed my game was rock solid,without a single crash!,EVER! Finally,I would like to hope this thread is stickied in the near future as it is very important and could save a lot of broken knuckles,cracked monitor screens and failed relationships/marriages. I look forward to your experiences and comments. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes Last edited by Paul Riley; 03-21-10 at 05:07 AM.

03-21-10, 05:30 AM	#5
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I never realised such a fantastic game like this could be so unstable!,I mean I have hardly EVER had any crashes since I got it in 2005.The last 2 crashes are really the only times its ever crashed for me I am DEF thinking the higher resolutions hack could be at fault for me,maybe something I didnt do/activate etc.I dont really need it anyway,I was always happy at 1024 resolution (plus 2x AA),and GWX with other mods soon helps take your mind off higher resolutions. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-21-10, 01:30 PM	#8
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	'tis the old advice i got when i joined subsim and experiernced crashes: not near land. not near other ships. not near sinking ships. ...as far away as possible from any moving/solid enviroment except the sea!! ps: plan your gaming around your time - though i realise this can be difficult. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

03-21-10, 05:21 PM	#9
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Interresting thread. Actually, I have a bug with the deckgun, it's not right, to many on the left, the visor is not correct and sometimes the correct middle is out of the screen. And I don't know what can I do. __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/

03-21-10, 09:27 PM	#10
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I remember this bug was already reported. though forgot the solution, wait till Jimbuna shows up. he can surely help you. __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

03-21-10, 04:57 AM	#2
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Saving "too close to ports" is also a no no. I haved saved fairly close to Hartlepool, but have never had cause to use those saves. I used to get into trouble saving too close to my own port. (Insurance against a computer crash while entering port.)

03-21-10, 05:13 AM	#4
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I don't know the "why". Perhaps due to spawning or unseen trafik? My old instalation used crash south of Norge/Norway. When I would reload a save from there, it would crash shortly after. I then learned that saving in Heavy Fog is also a no no. Admittedly, this stuff can make SH3 a pain when one would realy rather be in bed.

03-21-10, 05:37 AM	#6
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Wise decision. One of the first things I did after installing was to turn the "particle density" down to about 12%. Game runs great, and I don't see any negative effects on anything.