On little positive note...

ataribaby · 03-20-10, 06:50 PM

I just bought SH5 Gold over UBI digitalstore and patched to 1.1 in middle of last week. I played SH2/3/4 before. I like sims (mostly flight sims) and realism. In sub sim i not like manualy compute solutions for TDC etc. I want be just captain. So here is my experience with SH5. Overall i like it a lot. True feel tobe captain. I am really tied to my uboot and crew somewhat. I am in middle of "Happy times" with my U-69 after i got transfered from U-29 (if i remeber it ok).

Real improvement from generic SH3 feel. I like and enjoying objectives driven campaing. Not have prolem to fullfil most of them and they are not mandatory to campaing to continue. Had nice encounters. Got friendly destroyer follow me half way to patrol zone. Met other germany U-boot. Met big unescorted and later escorted convoys and lonely merchants and small warship groups. Got hunted by escorts and deepcharged. Got nice hits with auto TDC. Really like overleaping auto TDC numbers guidelines as game is real fun for me and not torture as SH3. Dynamic campaing works very well. It really compromise fun factor over SH3 strict and dull objectives. So for me SH5 is really good game and ubot sim i amd enjoying most. I throwed some basic mods in to enable missing keystrokes as return to course, Deep under keel, Range at current speed (this should really be under Navigator and sound boy dialogs). Enabled radio stations and gramophone just for immersion. Now what i dont like.

It is pretty obvious game was rushed to release very unfinished. There is a lot not used graphics, not enabled keyshortcuts, empty navigator dialog for commands like return to course. Incomplete UI as there is no way to simply click on compass. Morale bug after you reload game. Same with ubot skins that is not applied after save reload if you apply one for your renown. Watch crew stays on conn tower until last moment it is flooded. Cant do real deck awash as i cant access conn when under 6 m depth. Icons from mission stays when in pen. Even one can send status report to BDU from Captain log when in port pen. other small quirks. etc ... So i enjoying game in its state as is now and really hoping for patches that finish it into perfection.

I also "bought" some aditional camouflages on uplay for some upoints i earned for finishing first campaing "Total Germany". It was accessed via Uplay button in main menu and skins cost 20 upoints ( btw...a nybody know where i can find thatskins? I not have them in upgrade screen

). Also DRM. Yes i hate it but to be fair not have single problem with it. Works ok for me. So looks like most cry is from pirated game owners i think.

In the end i enjoying SH5 in its state now and waiting for pathes. Only time to show... if i was better to be angry for my money for unfinished game...

rsvette12 · 03-20-10, 06:56 PM

Great post, quick question you mention your on "Happy times" have not gotten that far, what did you have to do to get that far, thank you.

Rich

vanjast · 03-20-10, 07:01 PM

a little note at that

Ahem!.. try breaking a big block of words into paragraphs coz as it stands, it's difficult read.

kylania · 03-20-10, 07:02 PM

Wand des Textes getroffen!

ataribaby · 03-20-10, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsvette12

Great post, quick question you mention your on "Happy times" have not gotten that far, what did you have to do to get that far, thank you.

Rich

I just made patrols till invasion of norway and when i finished it game ends itself and jump into Happy times (Instantly ... i not got option to return to port). I missied one objective so i thinks it can be date dependant maybe or just when you finsh most of objectives. Lets see when and how Happy times ends for me.

ataribaby · 03-20-10, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanjast

a little note at that

Ahem!.. try breaking a big block of words into paragraphs coz as it stands, it's difficult read.

Yes Sir! Done!

Ragtag · 03-20-10, 08:17 PM

So, just because it works for you, everyone else with a problem must be a pirate. Jesus, there's one for each forum.

ataribaby · 03-21-10, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragtag

So, just because it works for you, everyone else with a problem must be a pirate. Jesus, there's one for each forum.

No i not mean this. Sorry if it sounds like that. Just what i read mostly have symptoms of pirated copies. No missons on map.

ZeInfidel · 03-21-10, 06:23 AM

Quote:

So, just because it works for you, everyone else with a problem must be a pirate. Jesus, there's one for each forum.

It works just fine,for the majority of people worldwide,except for the couple of "Drama Queens" on this forum.

Coldcall · 03-21-10, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ataribaby

I just bought SH5 Gold over UBI digitalstore and patched to 1.1 in middle of last week. I played SH2/3/4 before. I like sims (mostly flight sims) and realism. In sub sim i not like manualy compute solutions for TDC etc. I want be just captain. So here is my experience with SH5. Overall i like it a lot. True feel tobe captain. I am really tied to my uboot and crew somewhat. I am in middle of "Happy times" with my U-69 after i got transfered from U-29 (if i remeber it ok).

Real improvement from generic SH3 feel. I like and enjoying objectives driven campaing. Not have prolem to fullfil most of them and they are not mandatory to campaing to continue. Had nice encounters. Got friendly destroyer follow me half way to patrol zone. Met other germany U-boot. Met big unescorted and later escorted convoys and lonely merchants and small warship groups. Got hunted by escorts and deepcharged. Got nice hits with auto TDC. Really like overleaping auto TDC numbers guidelines as game is real fun for me and not torture as SH3. Dynamic campaing works very well. It really compromise fun factor over SH3 strict and dull objectives. So for me SH5 is really good game and ubot sim i amd enjoying most. I throwed some basic mods in to enable missing keystrokes as return to course, Deep under keel, Range at current speed (this should really be under Navigator and sound boy dialogs). Enabled radio stations and gramophone just for immersion. Now what i dont like.

It is pretty obvious game was rushed to release very unfinished. There is a lot not used graphics, not enabled keyshortcuts, empty navigator dialog for commands like return to course. Incomplete UI as there is no way to simply click on compass. Morale bug after you reload game. Same with ubot skins that is not applied after save reload if you apply one for your renown. Watch crew stays on conn tower until last moment it is flooded. Cant do real deck awash as i cant access conn when under 6 m depth. Icons from mission stays when in pen. Even one can send status report to BDU from Captain log when in port pen. other small quirks. etc ... So i enjoying game in its state as is now and really hoping for patches that finish it into perfection.

I also "bought" some aditional camouflages on uplay for some upoints i earned for finishing first campaing "Total Germany". It was accessed via Uplay button in main menu and skins cost 20 upoints ( btw...a nybody know where i can find thatskins? I not have them in upgrade screen

). Also DRM. Yes i hate it but to be fair not have single problem with it. Works ok for me. So looks like most cry is from pirated game owners i think.

In the end i enjoying SH5 in its state now and waiting for pathes. Only time to show... if i was better to be angry for my money for unfinished game...

SH5 Gold? Is that what they are calling SH5 patched to 1.1.5? :-)

Ragtag · 03-21-10, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ataribaby

No i not mean this. Sorry if it sounds like that. Just what i read mostly have symptoms of pirated copies. No missons on map.

Oh

Sorry for bursting out like this. No hard feelings i hope.

Coldcall · 03-21-10, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeInfidel

It works just fine,for the majority of people worldwide,except for the couple of "Drama Queens" on this forum.

No there are bugs which effect everyone all the time and then there are bugs which effect some people some of the time.

Its not just a few "drama queens" experiencing problems, bugs, connection, lost saves etc etc etc

While some folk go over the top in complaining an objective appraisal of SH5 is that its a poor release from a QA perspective. Putting a positive spin on it does no favours to people who bought the game and expected better, and it certainly does not encourage Ubisoft to fully patch the game.

Bilge_Rat · 03-21-10, 07:40 AM

SH5 is very impressive so far. A few minor bugs, but no major issues.

I just came off the Pedestal mission where I tracked a task force underwater for six hours. I was sure I had missed it since I could see the carrier moving away, then it zigged back in my direction, allowing me a shot. I am now running deep at 170 meters while the escorts track me.

I haven't had this much fun in a long time with any sim. Best $49.99 investment I ever made.

I have played every SH since SH1, but this one is special. It won't take much time or TLC from the modders before SH5 is the new standard in submarine simulations.

...now back to the Med...

Ragtag · 03-21-10, 10:06 AM

A totally broken moral system which is by the way a core in the gameplay of SH5. And savegames not saving information correctly like damaged ships and so on. That's hardly what i call "minor" bugs. The list is long with gamebreaking bugs including destroyers not reacting at all. Either you are blind sir or you just don't care to notice

LeNe · 03-21-10, 11:43 AM

It was a hard decision for me, should I really buy SH5? because of all the criticism spread in all forums. By the way the most objective criticism I found was on this page.
So I took my courage in both hands and went to a shop knowing to buy a game wich has many issues and I had still the feeling from some forums that the game is nearly unplayable.
As I came back home and started the game I felt happy it was running w/o connections problems. And after I played a few hours I've met a lot of bugs that other players stated and got killed by crashing own ships when returning to the harbour with time acceleration wich is very annoying, so I got more careful when driving in harbour areas. BUT beside all the problems the game is playable like it is and I was having a lot of fun in these hours. I think the most important task of a computergame is for the player having fun and this one is fulfilled for me so far. Furthermore in my opinion something I felt the first time when playing a subsim and what approved my decission of buying it is that feeling of being "inside" not operating a software program.
Nevertheless the publisher and the dev team should discharge their task and do what we paid for. They should at least solve the major issues which decreases the fun a bit in a lot of situations.

Respectfully showing my point of view
LeNe

03-20-10, 06:50 PM	#1
ataribaby Swabbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Liberec, Czech Republic Posts: 14 Downloads: 329 Uploads: 0	On little positive note... I just bought SH5 Gold over UBI digitalstore and patched to 1.1 in middle of last week. I played SH2/3/4 before. I like sims (mostly flight sims) and realism. In sub sim i not like manualy compute solutions for TDC etc. I want be just captain. So here is my experience with SH5. Overall i like it a lot. True feel tobe captain. I am really tied to my uboot and crew somewhat. I am in middle of "Happy times" with my U-69 after i got transfered from U-29 (if i remeber it ok). Real improvement from generic SH3 feel. I like and enjoying objectives driven campaing. Not have prolem to fullfil most of them and they are not mandatory to campaing to continue. Had nice encounters. Got friendly destroyer follow me half way to patrol zone. Met other germany U-boot. Met big unescorted and later escorted convoys and lonely merchants and small warship groups. Got hunted by escorts and deepcharged. Got nice hits with auto TDC. Really like overleaping auto TDC numbers guidelines as game is real fun for me and not torture as SH3. Dynamic campaing works very well. It really compromise fun factor over SH3 strict and dull objectives. So for me SH5 is really good game and ubot sim i amd enjoying most. I throwed some basic mods in to enable missing keystrokes as return to course, Deep under keel, Range at current speed (this should really be under Navigator and sound boy dialogs). Enabled radio stations and gramophone just for immersion. Now what i dont like. It is pretty obvious game was rushed to release very unfinished. There is a lot not used graphics, not enabled keyshortcuts, empty navigator dialog for commands like return to course. Incomplete UI as there is no way to simply click on compass. Morale bug after you reload game. Same with ubot skins that is not applied after save reload if you apply one for your renown. Watch crew stays on conn tower until last moment it is flooded. Cant do real deck awash as i cant access conn when under 6 m depth. Icons from mission stays when in pen. Even one can send status report to BDU from Captain log when in port pen. other small quirks. etc ... So i enjoying game in its state as is now and really hoping for patches that finish it into perfection. I also "bought" some aditional camouflages on uplay for some upoints i earned for finishing first campaing "Total Germany". It was accessed via Uplay button in main menu and skins cost 20 upoints ( btw...a nybody know where i can find thatskins? I not have them in upgrade screen ). Also DRM. Yes i hate it but to be fair not have single problem with it. Works ok for me. So looks like most cry is from pirated game owners i think. In the end i enjoying SH5 in its state now and waiting for pathes. Only time to show... if i was better to be angry for my money for unfinished game... Last edited by ataribaby; 03-20-10 at 07:46 PM.

03-20-10, 07:02 PM	#4
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Wand des Textes getroffen! __________________

03-20-10, 08:17 PM	#7
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	So, just because it works for you, everyone else with a problem must be a pirate. Jesus, there's one for each forum. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

03-21-10, 07:40 AM	#13
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	SH5 is very impressive so far. A few minor bugs, but no major issues. I just came off the Pedestal mission where I tracked a task force underwater for six hours. I was sure I had missed it since I could see the carrier moving away, then it zigged back in my direction, allowing me a shot. I am now running deep at 170 meters while the escorts track me. I haven't had this much fun in a long time with any sim. Best $49.99 investment I ever made. I have played every SH since SH1, but this one is special. It won't take much time or TLC from the modders before SH5 is the new standard in submarine simulations. ...now back to the Med... __________________

03-21-10, 10:06 AM	#14
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	A totally broken moral system which is by the way a core in the gameplay of SH5. And savegames not saving information correctly like damaged ships and so on. That's hardly what i call "minor" bugs. The list is long with gamebreaking bugs including destroyers not reacting at all. Either you are blind sir or you just don't care to notice __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

03-20-10, 06:56 PM	#2
rsvette12 Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 263 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Great post, quick question you mention your on "Happy times" have not gotten that far, what did you have to do to get that far, thank you. Rich

03-20-10, 07:01 PM	#3
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,733 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	a little note at that Ahem!.. try breaking a big block of words into paragraphs coz as it stands, it's difficult read.

03-21-10, 11:43 AM	#15
LeNe Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 4 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	It was a hard decision for me, should I really buy SH5? because of all the criticism spread in all forums. By the way the most objective criticism I found was on this page. So I took my courage in both hands and went to a shop knowing to buy a game wich has many issues and I had still the feeling from some forums that the game is nearly unplayable. As I came back home and started the game I felt happy it was running w/o connections problems. And after I played a few hours I've met a lot of bugs that other players stated and got killed by crashing own ships when returning to the harbour with time acceleration wich is very annoying, so I got more careful when driving in harbour areas. BUT beside all the problems the game is playable like it is and I was having a lot of fun in these hours. I think the most important task of a computergame is for the player having fun and this one is fulfilled for me so far. Furthermore in my opinion something I felt the first time when playing a subsim and what approved my decission of buying it is that feeling of being "inside" not operating a software program. Nevertheless the publisher and the dev team should discharge their task and do what we paid for. They should at least solve the major issues which decreases the fun a bit in a lot of situations. Respectfully showing my point of view LeNe Last edited by LeNe; 03-21-10 at 05:57 PM.