Command & Conquer 4 to Require Constant Internet Connection

scrapser · 03-18-10, 02:03 PM

Here we go again.

Raptor1 · 03-18-10, 02:06 PM

Not 'to', it already does. And this is old news.

C&C was destined to fall when EA murdered Westwood...

scrapser · 03-18-10, 02:17 PM

Ah...didn't realize it was out already. No worries. I'm not buying it. I played C&C-3 once and wondered why I bothered. With this new DRM it's a no-brainer decision.

Fincuan · 03-18-10, 02:44 PM

EA's community manager had a pretty hilarious view on the subject:

Quote:

"First thing to be clear about, Command & Conquer 4 has NO DRM. Zip, zero, zilch, none."

Oh, hold on...

Quote:

"To play Command & Conquer 4, the computer needs to be connected to the internet."

Source: Kotaku

Arclight · 03-18-10, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Not 'to', it already does. And this is old news.

Aye, posted it months ago. Noone cared.

No dedicated servers or LAN play either, btw.

conus00 · 03-18-10, 02:51 PM

Another game to strike off of the "to-buy-list".

At this point I'm very thankful for the DOSBox....

Lionclaw · 03-18-10, 06:20 PM

Well if this is the future of the computer game industry, I can only hope it will cause the collapse of said industry. Something good may come from the ruins.

Gaming needs to go back to its roots.

I've been a gamer since the early 1990's, or even late -80's, I don't really remember my first ever gaming experience.

I didn't get on the PC bandwagon until 1997, Super EF2000 was the first game I played. It was quite fun but I couldn't really get into it so I sold the game after some time. Back when you could sell the PC games!

I grew up with Nintendo 8-bit, Commodore 64 and Amiga 500+. Back then, games were great, they were released in a finished state, they had excellent gameplay, graphics didn't really matter.
It was fun.
It wasn't until mid to late -90's that graphics really started improving. There were some good PC games during that period though. Some of which I didn't discover until many years later.
But then they started to focus too much on graphics, and gameplay suffered.

I'd rather have a great game with mediocre graphics than a mediocre game with great graphics.
Well sometimes some gems with both great gameplay and graphics appear.

And one has to wonder why games are released in the state in which they are released. Half done, shouldn't the price be lower then? I mean if something is half done, why should I pay full price for an incomplete product?

Yes, games are way more complex today than they were 20 years ago, so it's impossible to find and destroy all bugs. But when it's unstable and crashing a lot, one has to wonder if Quality Control exists in some publishing companies.

It seems more to me like an investment to buy games today, so they can actually finish the game. Probably too many people shuffling around papers in offices that are sucking money from budgets.

UNREALISTIC DEADLINES

Well, the businessmen don't care. The only thing they care about is that they're making money. "Whoops! We released a product comparable to excrement. Who cares! MONEY!!"

Raptor1 · 03-18-10, 06:23 PM

This is not about unfinished games, this is about idiotic game design, which EA is a master of.

Wolfehunter · 03-18-10, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionclaw

Well if this is the future of the computer game industry, I can only hope it will cause the collapse of said industry. Something good may come from the ruins.

Gaming needs to go back to its roots.

I've been a gamer since the early 1990's, or even late -80's, I don't really remember my first ever gaming experience.

I didn't get on the PC bandwagon until 1997, Super EF2000 was the first game I played. It was quite fun but I couldn't really get into it so I sold the game after some time. Back when you could sell the PC games!

I grew up with Nintendo 8-bit, Commodore 64 and Amiga 500+. Back then, games were great, they were released in a finished state, they had excellent gameplay, graphics didn't really matter.
It was fun.
It wasn't until mid to late -90's that graphics really started improving. There were some good PC games during that period though. Some of which I didn't discover until many years later.
But then they started to focus too much on graphics, and gameplay suffered.

I'd rather have a great game with mediocre graphics than a mediocre game with great graphics.
Well sometimes some gems with both great gameplay and graphics appear.

And one has to wonder why games are released in the state in which they are released. Half done, shouldn't the price be lower then? I mean if something is half done, why should I pay full price for an incomplete product?

Yes, games are way more complex today than they were 20 years ago, so it's impossible to find and destroy all bugs. But when it's unstable and crashing a lot, one has to wonder if Quality Control exists in some publishing companies.

It seems more to me like an investment to buy games today, so they can actually finish the game. Probably too many people shuffling around papers in offices that are sucking money from budgets.

UNREALISTIC DEADLINES

Well, the businessmen don't care. The only thing they care about is that they're making money. "Whoops! We released a product comparable to excrement. Who cares! MONEY!!"

This won't kill the PC gaming. It will kill the large coorperate *******s who try to control it. We will win. There are plenty of lesser named PC dev teams out there busting there butts on making quality PC games. Not so nice graphics like Masseffect 2 but hey PC isn't always about the look hehhee its about the size that counts...

papa_smurf · 03-22-10, 05:18 AM

A sad day for PC gamers

KL-alfman · 03-22-10, 05:47 AM

regarding Homeworld:
if new to that RTS, would you suggest to start with part1 or to dive immediately into part2?

thx for your anwers

Dowly · 03-22-10, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL-alfman

regarding Homeworld:
if new to that RTS, would you suggest to start with part1 or to dive immediately into part2?

thx for your anwers

Pick whichever you want, ass kicking (your ass) is ensured.

Raptor1 · 03-22-10, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL-alfman

regarding Homeworld:
if new to that RTS, would you suggest to start with part1 or to dive immediately into part2?

thx for your anwers

I would take them in the proper order (Homeworld, Cataclysm, Homeworld 2).

Cataclysm is more of a spin-off than a sequal to Homeworld, and it's story is IMO the weakest in the series, so you could theoretically skip it if you wanted (Though it's still a very good game, so I wouldn't).

KL-alfman · 03-22-10, 06:10 AM

ok, excellent!
you've been of great help. great, they released the source-code of part1. this allows me to play during my business-trips on my Linux-laptop.
I will start today with buying it (probably only on-line possible) and will tell about my impressions in the near future.

thx, guys!

03-18-10, 02:03 PM	#1
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Command & Conquer 4 to Require Constant Internet Connection Here we go again. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

03-18-10, 02:06 PM	#2
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Not 'to', it already does. And this is old news. C&C was destined to fall when EA murdered Westwood... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-18-10, 02:17 PM	#3
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Ah...didn't realize it was out already. No worries. I'm not buying it. I played C&C-3 once and wondered why I bothered. With this new DRM it's a no-brainer decision. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

03-18-10, 02:51 PM	#6
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: DB85 Posts: 804 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Another game to strike off of the "to-buy-list". At this point I'm very thankful for the DOSBox.... __________________

03-18-10, 06:23 PM	#8
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	This is not about unfinished games, this is about idiotic game design, which EA is a master of. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-18-10, 06:20 PM	#7
Lionclaw Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,006 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well if this is the future of the computer game industry, I can only hope it will cause the collapse of said industry. Something good may come from the ruins. Gaming needs to go back to its roots. I've been a gamer since the early 1990's, or even late -80's, I don't really remember my first ever gaming experience. I didn't get on the PC bandwagon until 1997, Super EF2000 was the first game I played. It was quite fun but I couldn't really get into it so I sold the game after some time. Back when you could sell the PC games! I grew up with Nintendo 8-bit, Commodore 64 and Amiga 500+. Back then, games were great, they were released in a finished state, they had excellent gameplay, graphics didn't really matter. It was fun. It wasn't until mid to late -90's that graphics really started improving. There were some good PC games during that period though. Some of which I didn't discover until many years later. But then they started to focus too much on graphics, and gameplay suffered. I'd rather have a great game with mediocre graphics than a mediocre game with great graphics. Well sometimes some gems with both great gameplay and graphics appear. And one has to wonder why games are released in the state in which they are released. Half done, shouldn't the price be lower then? I mean if something is half done, why should I pay full price for an incomplete product? Yes, games are way more complex today than they were 20 years ago, so it's impossible to find and destroy all bugs. But when it's unstable and crashing a lot, one has to wonder if Quality Control exists in some publishing companies. It seems more to me like an investment to buy games today, so they can actually finish the game. Probably too many people shuffling around papers in offices that are sucking money from budgets. UNREALISTIC DEADLINES Well, the businessmen don't care. The only thing they care about is that they're making money. "Whoops! We released a product comparable to excrement. Who cares! MONEY!!"

03-22-10, 05:18 AM	#10
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	A sad day for PC gamers __________________

03-22-10, 05:47 AM	#11
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	regarding Homeworld: if new to that RTS, would you suggest to start with part1 or to dive immediately into part2? thx for your anwers __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

03-22-10, 06:10 AM	#14
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	ok, excellent! you've been of great help. great, they released the source-code of part1. this allows me to play during my business-trips on my Linux-laptop. I will start today with buying it (probably only on-line possible) and will tell about my impressions in the near future. thx, guys! __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!