Lost at sea

Safe-Keeper · 03-12-10, 10:57 AM

So I went for the British Supplies mission and set out, and decided to cut south of Scapa Flow to save time and diesel. My watch officer says he can see smoke on the horizon, but I see nothing and ignore him, for then to go below-deck and up time compression, taking part of the run at periscope depth to see if there are hostiles near me.

I surface the boat, and all of a sudden I get damage reports, and when I check the "Sub-Systems" screen, my hull integrity is down to 47%. What happened? Did I hit a mine? I run for the ladder, and as I climb I hear explosions or gunfire... and when I'm almost at the hatch, I see a British flag above me.

I reach the top of the conning tower just in time to see a destroyer go past the boat at flank speed, as damage reports flood in... then the screen goes black.

Not too much of an achievement. No objectives completed save from the tutorial mission, only halfway though Coastal Waters with 25 000 tonnes sunk (mostly owing to me being inexperienced with the new TDC system)... Guess I'll just have to Be more aggressive! (I also had a tendency to ignore targets not in my mission area).

Mud · 03-12-10, 11:03 AM

R.I.P

Mud

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 11:19 AM

Time compression can be deadly.

ReFaN · 03-12-10, 11:29 AM

had a british carrier run over me once when i was running around in high TC, weather was so bad my watch crew didnt notice it.

Bilge_Rat · 03-12-10, 11:38 AM

next time your watch officer tells you there's smoke on the horizon, don't ignore him...

SabreHawk · 03-12-10, 11:39 AM

So, you didn't belive your watch officer and went and TC'd anyway.

Well....................

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFaN

had a british carrier run over me once when i was running around in high TC, weather was so bad my watch crew didnt notice it.

This is not new I have had the same issue in previous titles. Nothing like seeing the looming ship suddenly appear in front of you while chugging along at flank

Safe-Keeper · 03-12-10, 12:11 PM

I didn't ignore ignore him, I did check the horizon and looked for contacts on the map. I figured that okay, they may be warships far away, but I'll be fine. I was used to DD's being blind and dumb as hell, and didn't figure that upping realism would make them that dangerous.

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

I didn't ignore ignore him, I did check the horizon and looked for contacts on the map. I figured that okay, they may be warships far away, but I'll be fine. I was used to DD's being blind and dumb as hell, and didn't figure that upping realism would make them that dangerous.

It wasent the realisim it was the time compression.

There are a dozen or so threads around about sudden death syndrome.

sav112 · 03-12-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

I was used to DD's being blind and dumb as hell, and didn't figure that upping realism would make them that dangerous.

I doubt you were out foxed by the Ai as by the many reports its rather thick or just blind. That’s why I hate what I’m reading, if I’m killed I want to know that it was a poor move or decision on my side and great move on the enemy with its response.

I’d not trust the Game at all. Loved the guy blowing up the CV with one shot on the other thread. Doubt it would happen IRL back in the war.

Does that super mod for SHIII improve the Ai response as I’m hopping the Mods can correct the game by the end of the year. I plan a SHV Xmas……

Safe-Keeper · 03-12-10, 05:03 PM

The problem, far as I can tell, is just as much that your crew very inconsistently report contacts and sightings. I'm working on the River Mayhem mission at the moment, and it's far from a given that you get the "Contact, freighter, bearing this, range that" or "Ship sighted at bearing this, range that" messages when they see something. Just as often the time compression drops to 32 with no explanation at all.

Particularly irritating when you have map contacts disabled, and the "sonar guy" doesn't have the ability to give you a Bearing to Nearest Merchant

. What am I supposed to do, man the hydrophone myself every time there's a new contact (not that I can get the damned thing to turn).

Merlin.75 · 03-12-10, 07:08 PM

Used TC going south of Scapa Flow very brave that is one place you tend to find DD's. Only ever came though there once and no DD about.

03-12-10, 10:57 AM	#1
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Lost at sea So I went for the British Supplies mission and set out, and decided to cut south of Scapa Flow to save time and diesel. My watch officer says he can see smoke on the horizon, but I see nothing and ignore him, for then to go below-deck and up time compression, taking part of the run at periscope depth to see if there are hostiles near me. I surface the boat, and all of a sudden I get damage reports, and when I check the "Sub-Systems" screen, my hull integrity is down to 47%. What happened? Did I hit a mine? I run for the ladder, and as I climb I hear explosions or gunfire... and when I'm almost at the hatch, I see a British flag above me. I reach the top of the conning tower just in time to see a destroyer go past the boat at flank speed, as damage reports flood in... then the screen goes black. Not too much of an achievement. No objectives completed save from the tutorial mission, only halfway though Coastal Waters with 25 000 tonnes sunk (mostly owing to me being inexperienced with the new TDC system)... Guess I'll just have to Be more aggressive! (I also had a tendency to ignore targets not in my mission area). __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-12-10, 11:03 AM	#2
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	R.I.P Mud __________________

03-12-10, 11:19 AM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Time compression can be deadly. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-12-10, 11:29 AM	#4
ReFaN Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 831 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	had a british carrier run over me once when i was running around in high TC, weather was so bad my watch crew didnt notice it. __________________ Liverpool is my relegion, Anfield is my church. True believers never walk alone.

03-12-10, 11:38 AM	#5
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	next time your watch officer tells you there's smoke on the horizon, don't ignore him... __________________

03-12-10, 11:39 AM	#6
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	So, you didn't belive your watch officer and went and TC'd anyway. Well.................... __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

03-12-10, 12:11 PM	#8
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I didn't ignore ignore him, I did check the horizon and looked for contacts on the map. I figured that okay, they may be warships far away, but I'll be fine. I was used to DD's being blind and dumb as hell, and didn't figure that upping realism would make them that dangerous. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-12-10, 05:03 PM	#11
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The problem, far as I can tell, is just as much that your crew very inconsistently report contacts and sightings. I'm working on the River Mayhem mission at the moment, and it's far from a given that you get the "Contact, freighter, bearing this, range that" or "Ship sighted at bearing this, range that" messages when they see something. Just as often the time compression drops to 32 with no explanation at all. Particularly irritating when you have map contacts disabled, and the "sonar guy" doesn't have the ability to give you a Bearing to Nearest Merchant. What am I supposed to do, man the hydrophone myself every time there's a new contact (not that I can get the damned thing to turn). __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-12-10, 07:08 PM	#12
Merlin.75 Nub Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Used TC going south of Scapa Flow very brave that is one place you tend to find DD's. Only ever came though there once and no DD about.