Love the game

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 02:08 PM

I know SHV has a lot of problems; nevertheless, without any alternatives this is the only WWII sub sim which has been developed in the recent years. I know it's much easier to criticize, whine, complain, nagging and bitch abou it. We are all adults here. After all nobody forced us to buy SHV. We all have a choice not to buy or return it. As for the rest of us who interested sub-simming (not sub-whining) lets keep the forum on a positive note - constructive and objective.

Negative nonconstructive posts are very destructing and annoying

I hope you understand

Galanti · 03-04-10, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sdflyer

I know SHV has a lot of problems; nevertheless, without any alternatives this is the only WWII sub sim which has been developed in the recent years. I know it's much easier to criticize, whine, complain, nagging and bitch abou it. We are all adults here. After all nobody forced us to buy SHV. We all have a choice not to buy or return it. As for the rest of us who interested sub-simming (not sub-whining) lets keep the forum on a positive note - constructive and objective.

Negative nonconstructive posts are very destructing and annoying

I hope you understand

Define recent years. I have a fully tricked-out SH4+Operation monsun install which (at present) blows the doors off this mess when it comes to recreating historically accurate U-boat operations globally from 1939-1945. Aside from pretty graphics and fully modelled interiors, SHV hasn't got much on it (again, yet.)

Bilge_Rat · 03-04-10, 02:22 PM

sdflyer, fully agree. I am having a lot of fun with the game and it can only get better. Don't worry about the forum, in a couple of weeks most of the negative critics will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy...

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Galanti

Define recent years. I have a fully tricked-out SH4+Operation monsun install which (at present) blows the doors off this mess when it comes to recreating historically accurate U-boat operations globally from 1939-1945. Aside from pretty graphics and fully modelled interiors, SHV hasn't got much on it (again, yet.)

I was referring to full cycle of software development, not modding/adding existing product which sure without any doubts is great as well

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy...

That is precisely what I'm interested in at the moment

Decoman · 03-04-10, 02:40 PM

People who would argue that 'it is just a game' probably fall short of giving an adequate response to critisism and complains to todays games.

Because one can easily argue that a game should be recognized as a game per se, where the content or service as such is of little importance, when one ought to realize that a game is to be something enjoyable as in acturally 'playing the game'. Consider the notion of 'utilizing the game' to immediately sense the pointlessness of trivializing the game experience.

The playability part is important and unfortunately, even the developers of popular Eve online obviously couldn't be bothered to relate to their 'service' as a game anymore. For Eve-Online this lack in playability part is especially revealing (about certain aspects) to those to (probably thousands of people) who have played this game for a very very very long time. Which ended up me leaving it all behind. And remember, the point of Eve-Online is to stick with it, surely even the game developers are already taking this for granted (Eve-O is a special case, being a MMO with slow/complex skill development).

Iron Budokan · 03-04-10, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Don't worry about the forum, in a couple of weeks most of the negative critics will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy...

Um. So you're looking forward to fixing a broken game full of bugs that you bought from Ubi with your hard-earnred money.

Well, okay. Enjoy, sir. I bid you safe voyage.

ichso · 03-04-10, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

sdflyer, fully agree. I am having a lot of fun with the game and it can only get better. Don't worry about the forum, in a couple of weeks most of the negative critics will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy...

Actually, its the critics that will be working hard on the game because they see the biggest need for improvements.

Bilge_Rat · 03-04-10, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Well, okay. Enjoy, sir. I bid you safe voyage.

Danke

Nordmann · 03-04-10, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Don't worry about the forum, in a couple of weeks most of the negative critics will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy...

Actually, in a couple of weeks, the defenders will be the new critics, when they finally stop kidding themselves. Don't worry, we won't laugh at you too much....well....okay we will.

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

Actually, in a couple of weeks, the defenders will be the new critics, when they finally stop kidding themselves. Don't worry, we won't laugh at you too much....well....okay we will.

There is en equal possibility of opposite

Schunken · 03-04-10, 03:49 PM

If he loves the game as it its we can delete his read-rights of the MODS-Forum, isnt?

This young Simulation is so ugly, even her own Devs can not love it....

Andreas

Nordmann · 03-04-10, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sdflyer

There is en equal possibility of opposite

Perhaps for a few, but when I say I'm not buying something, I'm not buying it. It's really quite simple.

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Um. So you're looking forward to fixing a broken game full of bugs that you bought from Ubi with your hard-earnred money.

What can I say life is a full of bugs . Look at Toyota Prius with its gas pedal bugs, or at Cessna Caravan with its de-cicing boots bugs.

sdflyer · 03-04-10, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

Perhaps for a few, but when I say I'm not buying something, I'm not buying it. It's really quite simple.

I respect your choice...I don't buy a lot of things as well.

03-04-10, 02:08 PM	#1
sdflyer Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 35 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Love the game I know SHV has a lot of problems; nevertheless, without any alternatives this is the only WWII sub sim which has been developed in the recent years. I know it's much easier to criticize, whine, complain, nagging and bitch abou it. We are all adults here. After all nobody forced us to buy SHV. We all have a choice not to buy or return it. As for the rest of us who interested sub-simming (not sub-whining) lets keep the forum on a positive note - constructive and objective. Negative nonconstructive posts are very destructing and annoying I hope you understand

03-04-10, 02:22 PM	#3
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	sdflyer, fully agree. I am having a lot of fun with the game and it can only get better. Don't worry about the forum, in a couple of weeks most of the negative critics will have moved on and we can get to work fixing this puppy... __________________

03-04-10, 02:40 PM	#6
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	People who would argue that 'it is just a game' probably fall short of giving an adequate response to critisism and complains to todays games. Because one can easily argue that a game should be recognized as a game per se, where the content or service as such is of little importance, when one ought to realize that a game is to be something enjoyable as in acturally 'playing the game'. Consider the notion of 'utilizing the game' to immediately sense the pointlessness of trivializing the game experience. The playability part is important and unfortunately, even the developers of popular Eve online obviously couldn't be bothered to relate to their 'service' as a game anymore. For Eve-Online this lack in playability part is especially revealing (about certain aspects) to those to (probably thousands of people) who have played this game for a very very very long time. Which ended up me leaving it all behind. And remember, the point of Eve-Online is to stick with it, surely even the game developers are already taking this for granted (Eve-O is a special case, being a MMO with slow/complex skill development).

03-04-10, 03:49 PM	#12
Schunken Medic Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 168 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	If he loves the game as it its we can delete his read-rights of the MODS-Forum, isnt? This young Simulation is so ugly, even her own Devs can not love it.... Andreas