Operation Titstorm

TarJak · 02-10-10, 05:43 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...0210-nqku.html

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/access-denied

Funny name, not a funny thing they are protesting about.

The Australian Government wants to filter the internet to protect our kids from the big bad nasty internet. They say they are only after the real bad stuff but will not tell the public what has been blacklisted or why. Blacklisting occurs after a complaint is posted to ACMA which then decides if it is on the list or not.

Of course the paedophiles and weird buggers will still be able to share their crap with other means like e-mail, newsgroups BBS snailmailing disks etc. whilst Joe Public goes blindly along with this ridiculous idea thinking alls right with the world and that their kids are safe.

The filter doesn't stop you using a proxy to get around it, it doesn't stop what it is supposed to stop and yet 80% of surveyed Australian's support this nonsense. That said at least 91% of them have the good sense to say they want to know what is on the filter and why.

What make me puke most of all is the Minister for Communications holding China up as a shining example of how internet filtering can work!

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/storie...nded-interview

FFS, this prat couldn't think his way out of a paper f___ing bag!

My biggest concern is how far the Government will go to "protect" us in the future. Lets say an anti-violence lobby group floods ACMA with complaints about a site that discusses war and warfare such as Subsim?

What about foreign news services that do not match the views of the complainant and what if the complainant is the Government itself? Does ACMA have the independence to say bugger off Government that's not bad enough?

Wake up Australia!

ReFaN · 02-10-10, 05:44 AM

Video aint viewable outside australia.

But still.

Wake up!

TarJak · 02-10-10, 05:51 AM

See filtering is already happening!

Seriously; I'll see if it can be found on youtube. The attack only happened this morning so may take a few hours to get uploaded.

EDIT: Not the original but related: Gives a good rundown on what the Government over here is proposing and what is on the blacklist.

Schroeder · 02-10-10, 07:33 AM

And there goes your liberty. Next thing will be critical bloggers and then political opponents. If you allow your government to decide what you are allowed to watch and what not you have already lost your liberty. Why is EVERYONE censored if it is only to protect children? Why don't you as an adult have the right to say I don't want to be censored and I'm older than 18 I can watch all the weird stuff I like (except if it is criminal contend like child porn, rape etc.). Why not developing a single browser that will be censored that you can install on you machine that your kid is using while the one that is only used by you has a normal one without the censorship?
Who are your politicians to decide what you are allowed to watch and what not?

Oberon · 02-10-10, 08:53 AM

Obviously the Australian government is near China politically as well as geographically.

Dowly · 02-10-10, 08:54 AM

I hate misleading titles...

krashkart · 02-10-10, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I hate misleading titles...

Sekure · 02-10-10, 10:48 AM

I don't get government doing the job that the parents should be doing.

It's exactly like television programming.

If you don't like the show don't watch it. And if you don't want you kids tuning to a show - block the show/channel etc.

Same with the internet - if you give your children unmonitored internet access it's easy to just block the entire internet and allow access to only a few sites that you know are child friendly.

This should NOT be a government responsibility - it's a parent or guardian's responsibility.

The more responsibility we give to the government the more we lose our freedoms.

August · 02-10-10, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I hate misleading titles...

I know. I opened this thread with great expectations, imagining what a tit storm might look like.

SteamWake · 02-10-10, 11:42 AM

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August · 02-10-10, 12:06 PM

That doesn't help Steamwake...

....well, it helps a little!

TarJak · 02-10-10, 05:32 PM

Nice work Steamwake.

Well I didn't feel like getting put into the brig for posting massive hooter pics.

On the more serisous topic I totally agree that it is my responsiblity as a parent to educate my children on safe browsing and what content they see. I don't belive in products like NetNanny or the like and I don't want the governtment being my NetNanny either.

The real issue is not so much the access, but mroe the process by which it is being done. The blacklist of intenet sites being filtered will (until it is leaked again), remain a secret, unlike the list of books or films that are refused classification in Australia.

If ther process were open and people had a say in it I think it might be less abrasive. As it stands now, I'm dead against it.

bookworm_020 · 02-10-10, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Obviously the Australian government is near China politically as well as geographically.

Well our PM does speak Mandrin! Maybe he would make more sense with subtitles???

Reaves · 02-11-10, 12:41 AM

This plus no R18+ classification...

Australia is really starting to suck donkey balls.

TarJak · 02-11-10, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaves

This plus no R18+ classification...

Australia is really starting to suck donkey balls.

That's exactly the sort of thing KRudd and Conjob wants to stop you from seeing.

EDIT: Google don't appear to be playing along. http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...0211-ntm0.html

02-10-10, 05:43 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Operation Titstorm http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...0210-nqku.html http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/access-denied Funny name, not a funny thing they are protesting about. The Australian Government wants to filter the internet to protect our kids from the big bad nasty internet. They say they are only after the real bad stuff but will not tell the public what has been blacklisted or why. Blacklisting occurs after a complaint is posted to ACMA which then decides if it is on the list or not. Of course the paedophiles and weird buggers will still be able to share their crap with other means like e-mail, newsgroups BBS snailmailing disks etc. whilst Joe Public goes blindly along with this ridiculous idea thinking alls right with the world and that their kids are safe. The filter doesn't stop you using a proxy to get around it, it doesn't stop what it is supposed to stop and yet 80% of surveyed Australian's support this nonsense. That said at least 91% of them have the good sense to say they want to know what is on the filter and why. What make me puke most of all is the Minister for Communications holding China up as a shining example of how internet filtering can work! http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/storie...nded-interview FFS, this prat couldn't think his way out of a paper f___ing bag! My biggest concern is how far the Government will go to "protect" us in the future. Lets say an anti-violence lobby group floods ACMA with complaints about a site that discusses war and warfare such as Subsim? What about foreign news services that do not match the views of the complainant and what if the complainant is the Government itself? Does ACMA have the independence to say bugger off Government that's not bad enough? Wake up Australia!

02-10-10, 05:44 AM	#2
ReFaN Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 831 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Video aint viewable outside australia. But still. Wake up! __________________ Liverpool is my relegion, Anfield is my church. True believers never walk alone.

02-10-10, 07:33 AM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	And there goes your liberty. Next thing will be critical bloggers and then political opponents. If you allow your government to decide what you are allowed to watch and what not you have already lost your liberty. Why is EVERYONE censored if it is only to protect children? Why don't you as an adult have the right to say I don't want to be censored and I'm older than 18 I can watch all the weird stuff I like (except if it is criminal contend like child porn, rape etc.). Why not developing a single browser that will be censored that you can install on you machine that your kid is using while the one that is only used by you has a normal one without the censorship? Who are your politicians to decide what you are allowed to watch and what not? __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-10-10, 11:42 AM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	(.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) (.) __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

02-10-10, 12:06 PM	#11
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That doesn't help Steamwake... ....well, it helps a little! __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

02-10-10, 05:51 AM	#3
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	See filtering is already happening! Seriously; I'll see if it can be found on youtube. The attack only happened this morning so may take a few hours to get uploaded. EDIT: Not the original but related: Gives a good rundown on what the Government over here is proposing and what is on the blacklist.

02-10-10, 08:53 AM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Obviously the Australian government is near China politically as well as geographically.

02-10-10, 08:54 AM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I hate misleading titles...

02-10-10, 10:48 AM	#8
Sekure Watch Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 28 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I don't get government doing the job that the parents should be doing. It's exactly like television programming. If you don't like the show don't watch it. And if you don't want you kids tuning to a show - block the show/channel etc. Same with the internet - if you give your children unmonitored internet access it's easy to just block the entire internet and allow access to only a few sites that you know are child friendly. This should NOT be a government responsibility - it's a parent or guardian's responsibility. The more responsibility we give to the government the more we lose our freedoms.

02-10-10, 05:32 PM	#12
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Nice work Steamwake. Well I didn't feel like getting put into the brig for posting massive hooter pics. On the more serisous topic I totally agree that it is my responsiblity as a parent to educate my children on safe browsing and what content they see. I don't belive in products like NetNanny or the like and I don't want the governtment being my NetNanny either. The real issue is not so much the access, but mroe the process by which it is being done. The blacklist of intenet sites being filtered will (until it is leaked again), remain a secret, unlike the list of books or films that are refused classification in Australia. If ther process were open and people had a say in it I think it might be less abrasive. As it stands now, I'm dead against it.

02-11-10, 12:41 AM	#14
Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	This plus no R18+ classification... Australia is really starting to suck donkey balls. __________________