Can't dive deep

Chef · 01-25-10, 02:16 PM

I looked for an old topic with an answer but didn't find anything.

My problem is that I upgraded to a Balao recently and just attacked a well defended convoy and had a rough time with the escorts. I decided to give the thick skin a test and put the boat into dive. The boat went down to 327 feet and that was it. I tried hitting D several times. I tried C to crash dive. Nothing. What's the point of a boat that has a test depth of 400 feet and could easily go to 600 feet but the boat won't dive deeper than 327 feet?

Any ideas?

P.S. Why don't we get a deep depth gauge? The shallow depth gauge is insufficient for the depths fleet boats went regularly.

Thanks

01-25-10, 02:45 PM

forget the "D" or "C" keys and just set the depth you want on your depth guage to go as deep as you want to

SteamWake · 01-25-10, 02:45 PM

There is a tab directly beneath the shallow depth gauge.. try clicking that

Inner Sound · 01-25-10, 03:15 PM

In TMO you just hit D and down you go, and you'll keep on going unless you hit A or P or ; or S or you die.

E has been disabled ( or rather it is now used to cycle your stern tubes) so emergency blow ballast is now done off the clicky menu.

If you hit A for maintain current depth, you'll kep going down some 20 to 50 feet before lifting to the depth you want. This could kill you!

The dial stops at 450 but the reading beside it informs you.

hth

Chef · 01-25-10, 03:25 PM

Thanks!

Game manual? We don't need no steenkin' game manual!

BTW, I knew I should have grabbed some Mk 27's on my last refit.

granite00 · 01-08-17, 01:11 AM

In a stock 1.5 game with mod Balao 600 foot depth gauge, the HUD depth gauge only takes you to 450 ft.

How do you proceed below 450 feet? The D key command doesn't help.

Moonlight · 01-08-17, 04:37 PM

The deep depth gauge in the command room in FOTRSU controls the deeper dives so I'm assuming the stock 1.5 command room should so as well.

granite00 · 01-08-17, 04:43 PM

Unfortunately that's not the case in the Stock version. I believe TMO made several gauges active and that's why they work that way in FOTRSU.

fireftr18 · 01-08-17, 09:10 PM

granite is correct. I haven't played stock in so long I don't remember exactly. I believe that in stock game, there is no way to go deeper than clicking on the GUI deep dive gauge.

razark · 01-09-17, 12:47 AM

How about going as deep as you can and hitting the Dive key? Keeps you heading down until you order a depth change or to level off the boat.

(I know that works in something. Probably a mod thing, but might be worth trying.)

granite00 · 01-09-17, 01:15 AM

Thanks razark, I tried that yesterday.

My test: in a Balao with a test depth (red line on the gauge) of 400 ft. and clickable HUD depth gauge that goes to 450ft., I got to 450 by clicking the gauge. Hitting D for dive took me up to the test depth mark of 400 ft.

If I can figure out how to make the dive key dive until ordered otherwise, that would work. That's how the dive key works in TMO.

CapnScurvy · 01-09-17, 08:34 AM

The stock game doesn't allow any sub to dive as deep as you want. The gauges are only going to allow you to dive to their set marked depth....450ft on some gauges/ 600 ft on others. The "D" (Dive) key will take you to the "Test Depth" of the particular sub your in, but that's as far as you go.

I put the feature of using the "D" key to dive to your death into Optical Targeting Correction (OTC). You may be surprised to learn just how much your sub can take if you try to stretch the limit when using my mod. Just keep in mind there's a point of no return. The physics of the depth compression is well modeled in-game. You're controls become sluggish, losing responsiveness, to the point even an "Emergency Blow Ballast" and Flank Speed power won't pull you up. You're left reading the increasing depth figure showing on your gauges, knowing there's no escape. A terrible feeling many a lost submariner must have felt!

granite00 · 01-09-17, 11:44 AM

Hi CapnScurvy,
I really like your OTC mod and have played with it many times. The only reason I'm playing the SH4 stock version is to play the Guerrilla Submarines Spyron Mod. I suppose I could try to play Spyron and OTC together. Not sure how well they will interact.

CapnScurvy · 01-10-17, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by granite00

Hi CapnScurvy,
I really like your OTC mod and have played with it many times. The only reason I'm playing the SH4 stock version is to play the Guerrilla Submarines Spyron Mod. I suppose I could try to play Spyron and OTC together. Not sure how well they will interact.

Yea, I'm not sure what Spyron does. If it just deals with Campaign files then I'd think OTC could overlay Spyron just fine. If it changes the Sea/NX_xxxx files, or others like the menu_1024_768.ini file then I'd think OTC would step on whatever Spyron tried to do....and Spyron would do the same, overlaid onto OTC.

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I'm going to give you guys the "fix" for getting your sub's to dive deeper this evening, when I get home. I want to make sure I'll give you all the info you'll need to get your sub to dive deeper than its test depth. Stay tuned.

propbeanie · 01-10-17, 10:07 AM

It looks like it (SpyRon) changes the Campaign layer (naturally), the Terrain and Texture folders (for Sofu Gan??) and the UPCData for Career Start and tracking, but stays away from the Sea and menu stuff. It looks like OTC should sit politely on top of SpyRon. Use JSGME and give it a try. If it fails, just back if off.

01-25-10, 02:16 PM	#1
Chef Seaman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 41 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Can't dive deep I looked for an old topic with an answer but didn't find anything. My problem is that I upgraded to a Balao recently and just attacked a well defended convoy and had a rough time with the escorts. I decided to give the thick skin a test and put the boat into dive. The boat went down to 327 feet and that was it. I tried hitting D several times. I tried C to crash dive. Nothing. What's the point of a boat that has a test depth of 400 feet and could easily go to 600 feet but the boat won't dive deeper than 327 feet? Any ideas? P.S. Why don't we get a deep depth gauge? The shallow depth gauge is insufficient for the depths fleet boats went regularly. Thanks

01-25-10, 02:45 PM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	There is a tab directly beneath the shallow depth gauge.. try clicking that __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

01-25-10, 03:25 PM	#5
Chef Seaman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 41 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Thanks! Game manual? We don't need no steenkin' game manual! BTW, I knew I should have grabbed some Mk 27's on my last refit. Last edited by Chef; 01-25-10 at 05:00 PM.

01-08-17, 01:11 AM	#6
granite00 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 113 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	In a stock 1.5 game with mod Balao 600 foot depth gauge, the HUD depth gauge only takes you to 450 ft. How do you proceed below 450 feet? The D key command doesn't help. __________________ granite00

01-08-17, 04:37 PM	#7
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	The deep depth gauge in the command room in FOTRSU controls the deeper dives so I'm assuming the stock 1.5 command room should so as well. __________________

01-25-10, 02:45 PM	#2
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	forget the "D" or "C" keys and just set the depth you want on your depth guage to go as deep as you want to

01-25-10, 03:15 PM	#4
Inner Sound Sparky Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 152 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	In TMO you just hit D and down you go, and you'll keep on going unless you hit A or P or ; or S or you die. E has been disabled ( or rather it is now used to cycle your stern tubes) so emergency blow ballast is now done off the clicky menu. If you hit A for maintain current depth, you'll kep going down some 20 to 50 feet before lifting to the depth you want. This could kill you! The dial stops at 450 but the reading beside it informs you. hth

01-08-17, 04:43 PM	#8
granite00 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 113 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Unfortunately that's not the case in the Stock version. I believe TMO made several gauges active and that's why they work that way in FOTRSU. __________________ granite00

01-08-17, 09:10 PM	#9
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	granite is correct. I haven't played stock in so long I don't remember exactly. I believe that in stock game, there is no way to go deeper than clicking on the GUI deep dive gauge. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

01-09-17, 12:47 AM	#10
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	How about going as deep as you can and hitting the Dive key? Keeps you heading down until you order a depth change or to level off the boat. (I know that works in something. Probably a mod thing, but might be worth trying.) __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

01-09-17, 01:15 AM	#11
granite00 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 113 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Thanks razark, I tried that yesterday. My test: in a Balao with a test depth (red line on the gauge) of 400 ft. and clickable HUD depth gauge that goes to 450ft., I got to 450 by clicking the gauge. Hitting D for dive took me up to the test depth mark of 400 ft. If I can figure out how to make the dive key dive until ordered otherwise, that would work. That's how the dive key works in TMO. __________________ granite00

01-09-17, 11:44 AM	#13
granite00 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 113 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Hi CapnScurvy, I really like your OTC mod and have played with it many times. The only reason I'm playing the SH4 stock version is to play the Guerrilla Submarines Spyron Mod. I suppose I could try to play Spyron and OTC together. Not sure how well they will interact. __________________ granite00

01-10-17, 10:07 AM	#15
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	It looks like it (SpyRon) changes the Campaign layer (naturally), the Terrain and Texture folders (for Sofu Gan??) and the UPCData for Career Start and tracking, but stays away from the Sea and menu stuff. It looks like OTC should sit politely on top of SpyRon. Use JSGME and give it a try. If it fails, just back if off. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna