Where is that transparency we were promised ! (political)

SteamWake · 12-23-09, 02:33 PM

Merry effin Chrismass

They know they cant get this thing done any other way.

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Originally Posted by Wall Street Journal

Look for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to try to circumvent the traditional conference committee process by which the different versions of health care reform passed by each house will be reconciled. If so, it will be the latest example of violating principles of transparency and accountability in the single-minded pursuit of legislative victory.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...270356274.html

AVGWarhawk · 12-23-09, 02:37 PM

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Mr. Reid and Ms. Pelosi would love to come up with a way to bash heads in private and skip any public discussion that further reveals just how incoherent and unworkable both the bills are.

They have done this already. Everything that has passed thus far has been handled in the same fashion.

SteamWake · 12-23-09, 03:03 PM

Contrary to campaign promises... I'm just saying.

AVGWarhawk · 12-23-09, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Contrary to campaign promises... I'm just saying.

Just one of many promises that for some reason has gone to the wayside.

Change man, change.

12-24-09, 02:29 AM

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Contrary to campaign promises...

When did people believe campaign promises?

GoldenRivet · 12-24-09, 02:34 AM

I guarantee you... there will be a Republican majority in Congress after the next election.

a senator CANNOT go against 75-80% (depending on the poll you look at) of the people and do whatever the hell they want and keep their job.

I think the majority of people in this country have had it with Pelosi, I think they are nearing absolute disgust with all of these "entitlement programs" and the end is very near for these fools.

Personally i have had it.

and if they sign this thing into law i will NOT be buying insurance.

MY GOVERNMENT CANNOT AND WILL NOT MANDATE TO ME THAT I AM REQUIRED TO PURCHASE A SPECIFIC GOOD OR SERVICE

it is unconstitutional in every way shape and form and i vehemently REFUSE to take part in it.

nikimcbee · 12-24-09, 02:43 AM

Y' all will enjoy our new sub-par, DMV healthcare. Enjoy waiting in line

. What somebody needs to do, is to add a rider, saying that no congress member shall have a private doctor, makr them subject to the same system.

Rockin Robbins · 12-24-09, 06:58 AM

Hold it. You never asked for the definition of transparency. Transparency means that Reid and Pelosi know what is going on. Where did you come into that equation?

AVGWarhawk · 12-24-09, 08:20 AM

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Transparency means that Reid and Pelosi know what is going on

For once RR you are dead wrong.

These two clowns are completely clueless as to what is going on. These two are concerned with their own part in history and creating a legacy for Obama. Nothing more.

Blood_splat · 12-24-09, 08:37 AM

Mean while the insurance companies will probably get richer.

SteamWake · 12-24-09, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

For once RR you are dead wrong.

These two clowns are completely clueless as to what is going on. These two are concerned with their own part in history and creating a legacy for Obama. Nothing more.

No I think they kow exactly what they are doing and its not about health care.

It appears they have passed that small hurdle.

LOL then again maybe not. It seems Reid voted no by accident

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Clearly exhausted, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid mistakenly voted no before changing his vote to yes, which got a laugh in the chamber, especially from Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell.

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/12...lth_bill_.html

August · 12-24-09, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I think the majority of people in this country have had it with Pelosi

I agree but unfortunately the only people whose opinions really count in the matter is those from California's 8th Congressional district.

We should have the pleasure of seeing her stripped of her post as House Majority Leader come the next election though...

AVGWarhawk · 12-24-09, 10:09 AM

Don't ever use stripped and Pelosi in the same sentence!!!!

SteamWake · 12-24-09, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Don't ever use stripped and Pelosi in the same sentence!!!!

Oberon · 12-24-09, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

When did people believe campaign promises?

12-23-09, 03:03 PM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Contrary to campaign promises... I'm just saying. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

12-24-09, 02:34 AM	#6
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I guarantee you... there will be a Republican majority in Congress after the next election. a senator CANNOT go against 75-80% (depending on the poll you look at) of the people and do whatever the hell they want and keep their job. I think the majority of people in this country have had it with Pelosi, I think they are nearing absolute disgust with all of these "entitlement programs" and the end is very near for these fools. Personally i have had it. and if they sign this thing into law i will NOT be buying insurance. *MY GOVERNMENT CANNOT AND WILL NOT MANDATE TO ME THAT I AM REQUIRED* TO PURCHASE A SPECIFIC GOOD OR SERVICE** it is unconstitutional in every way shape and form and i vehemently REFUSE to take part in it. __________________

12-24-09, 02:43 AM	#7
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Y' all will enjoy our new sub-par, DMV healthcare. Enjoy waiting in line. What somebody needs to do, is to add a rider, saying that no congress member shall have a private doctor, makr them subject to the same system. __________________

12-24-09, 06:58 AM	#8
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Hold it. You never asked for the definition of transparency. Transparency means that Reid and Pelosi know what is going on. Where did you come into that equation? __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Don't ever use stripped and Pelosi in the same sentence!!!! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-24-09, 08:37 AM	#10
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Mean while the insurance companies will probably get richer.