Copenhagen summit in trouble

SteamWake · 12-17-09, 12:16 PM

"Veering towards a farce"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-farce-warning

Carotio · 12-17-09, 04:37 PM

Somehow, there's something that I don't understand. Yes, they talk about a deadline, but I mean if they don't have a result in about 24 hours, then why not just postpone the deadline, until they reach an agreement, now that they all made the trouble to get to COP15 and then really do the effort to agree on something for now. Both developping countries as developped countries. We all live on this earth and thus we all have to do something. Whether it's a big effort or small depends entirely of the sizes of the countries, the sizes of the populations, the sizes of the industry and the available finances in the countries. I hope they make a deal which benefits us all or rather the planet. Some countries won't see the problems first hand, but a few others will see the effects very soon, if nothing is done. I'm talking about the small island states like the Maldives. And we all have to do something in our daily lives too.

Oberon · 12-17-09, 04:45 PM

Veering?

I'd say it's got there, parked up, turned the ignition off and gone to get a parking ticket!

Skybird · 12-17-09, 04:49 PM

Wasn't it set for that outcome from the very beginning on...?

Considering what goals were on the agenda at the start, Copenhagen is totally overestimated - even if it would have acchieved all objectives.

Or as a german critic had written: the summit is not about doing as much as is needed, but to do as little as possible, and selling that as a great acchievement at home.

Copenhagen means nothing.

SteamWake · 12-18-09, 09:59 AM

Heres a good opinion piece. Pretty much sums it up for me.

Quote:

When your attempt at recreating the Congress of Vienna with a third-rate cast of extras turns into a shambles, when the data with which you have tried to terrify the world is daily exposed as ever more phoney, when the blatant greed and self-interest of the participants has become obvious to all beholders, when those pesky polar bears just keep increasing and multiplying – what do you do?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ge...press-release/

AVGWarhawk · 12-18-09, 10:14 AM

No worries...Hillary Clinton is willing to throw 8 billion dollars/year at the problem...right after Afghanistan is completely trouble free.

Skybird · 12-18-09, 12:08 PM

German original by Der Tagesspiegel,
translated by me

nikimcbee · 12-18-09, 01:39 PM

You guys have it all wrong, it's not about saving the plant, it's about transfering wealth to other parts of the planet.

Just look at the speakers and the offers. That's okay, I didn't really want my money anyway.

Morts · 12-18-09, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

You guys have it all wrong, it's not about saving the plant, it's about transfering wealth to other parts of the planet.

Just look at the speakers and the offers. That's okay, I didn't really want my money anyway.

yeah....err...right.....

AVGWarhawk · 12-18-09, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts

yeah....err...right.....

It is. Clinton wants to send money to developing countries to help combat emissions and global warming.

Morts · 12-18-09, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It is. Clinton wants to send money to developing countries to help combat emissions and global warming.

aye, but thats not how Mcbee put it

Jimbuna · 12-18-09, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It is. Clinton wants to send money to developing countries to help combat emissions and global warming.

Oh yes...and I can see the leaders of them 'developing countries' not using a cent for their personal gratification

Sea Demon · 12-18-09, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It is. Clinton wants to send money to developing countries to help combat emissions and global warming.

Clinton's a fool. The Eastern US is expecting 8"-14" of snow in many places this weekend, Las Cruces New Mexico has snow on the ground, and we just had a nice snowstorm here in sunny California a few days back where I live. And I was freezing my can off a couple of days ago.

Global Warming is a joke. A complete farce. It's not just from observation, and real time data....it's common sense. At what point do the people that carried the water for this hoax, give it up. Climategate e-mails were only one aspect that unraveled this horrendous lie. The rest comes from just opening your eyes, and listening to discredited frauds like Al Gore convey their versions of junk "science". The fact that they keep pushing the lie despite the overwhelming observation against it, plus the leaked e-mails shows there's more to it than just "emissions" and "climate concerns". The "science" community that keeps pushing this junk is the worst in the business, and it's obvious there is motive there other than truth.

12-17-09, 12:16 PM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Copenhagen summit in trouble "Veering towards a farce" http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-farce-warning __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

12-17-09, 04:37 PM	#2
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Somehow, there's something that I don't understand. Yes, they talk about a deadline, but I mean if they don't have a result in about 24 hours, then why not just postpone the deadline, until they reach an agreement, now that they all made the trouble to get to COP15 and then really do the effort to agree on something for now. Both developping countries as developped countries. We all live on this earth and thus we all have to do something. Whether it's a big effort or small depends entirely of the sizes of the countries, the sizes of the populations, the sizes of the industry and the available finances in the countries. I hope they make a deal which benefits us all or rather the planet. Some countries won't see the problems first hand, but a few others will see the effects very soon, if nothing is done. I'm talking about the small island states like the Maldives. And we all have to do something in our daily lives too. __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

12-17-09, 04:49 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,612 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Wasn't it set for that outcome from the very beginning on...? Considering what goals were on the agenda at the start, Copenhagen is totally overestimated - even if it would have acchieved all objectives. Or as a german critic had written: the summit is not about doing as much as is needed, but to do as little as possible, and selling that as a great acchievement at home. Copenhagen means nothing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-18-09, 10:14 AM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	No worries...Hillary Clinton is willing to throw 8 billion dollars/year at the problem...right after Afghanistan is completely trouble free. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-18-09, 12:08 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,612 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	German original by Der Tagesspiegel, translated by me __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-17-09, 04:45 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Veering? I'd say it's got there, parked up, turned the ignition off and gone to get a parking ticket!

12-18-09, 01:39 PM	#8
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	You guys have it all wrong, it's not about saving the plant, it's about transfering wealth to other parts of the planet. Just look at the speakers and the offers. That's okay, I didn't really want my money anyway. __________________