Dept. of Health and Human Services...

SteamWake · 12-01-09, 11:57 AM

If the healthcare bill in its current form is passed the Dept. of HHS is set to become a huge goverment run agency basically taking over 1/6th of the US economy and will run your life.

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Originally Posted by The Washington Examiner

"Health and Human Services ... doesn't have any experience with this," Haislmaier said. "I'm looking at the potential for this whole thing to just blow up on people because they have no idea what they are doing. Who in the federal government regulates insurance today? Nobody."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...-73718162.html

AVGWarhawk · 12-01-09, 12:24 PM

This is distressing if true:

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"It's a huge amount of power being shifted to HHS, and much of it is highly discretionary," said Edmund Haislmaier, an expert in health care policy and insurance markets at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

Torvald Von Mansee · 12-01-09, 02:21 PM

I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer having massive, for-profit corporations running my life.

Private death panels are a lot more efficient than public death panels.

AVGWarhawk · 12-01-09, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer having massive, for-profit corporations running my life.

Private death panels are a lot more efficient than public death panels.

Lost me on that one.

SteamWake · 12-01-09, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Lost me on that one.

I believe he is trying to say that at least private companys can screw you with more efficency and that there would be little difference with goverment run healthcare.

AVGWarhawk · 12-01-09, 03:53 PM

Oh, so we are screwed not matter which way we go. Check!

MothBalls · 12-01-09, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Oh, so we are screwed not matter which way we go. Check!

You just now figured that out?

It really doesn't matter. With over 300,000,000 potential participants, any program, be it private or Government, is going to have abuse, people slip through the cracks, and all kinds of other problems and will basically just suck. We just have too many people.

I'm starting to think the US would be better off if they split in 50 countries, instead of States. (Then we could declare war on Texas)

When herds get too big, we cull them. Maybe it's time for us to do that with people as well. We'll just get Palin to go up in her wolf hunting chopper and shoot every third person they fly over.

or

Give everyone in the US a loaded weapon with extra ammo. Make it mandatory that everyone carry those weapons 7/24/365. After a few rush hours of traffic, then a few happy hours, or cut the power for 24 hours and send everyone into a panic, we could probably trim 1/3 of the population in 1 week or less.

magic452 · 12-02-09, 12:56 AM

Declare war on Taxes??????
We would be far better off by declaring war on New York and California.

Texas has one saving grace. IT'S THE HOME OF SUBSIM.

But now if Neal would perhaps move here to Nevada..........

On the point of this thread, Where is HHS going to get the people to run this diabolical.
Hire all the employs away from the insurance companies. They have the experience.
So we are right back where we started but at a staggering cost and lower quality of heal care.

This seems to make sense to some people?????????

Magic

Edit spelling of Neal, have a good friend who spells it Neil, force of habit. Apologies to Mr. Stevens (won't even try Neal again)

Sailor Steve · 12-02-09, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by magic452

...Neil...

AVGWarhawk · 12-02-09, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

You just now figured that out?

Give everyone in the US a loaded weapon with extra ammo. Make it mandatory that everyone carry those weapons 7/24/365. After a few rush hours of traffic, then a few happy hours, or cut the power for 24 hours and send everyone into a panic, we could probably trim 1/3 of the population in 1 week or less.

I do not feel screwed at all with my health insurance.

Giving guns to everyone to thin the herd might be a bit extreme.

August · 12-02-09, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer having massive, for-profit corporations running my life.

Private death panels are a lot more efficient than public death panels.

At least private death panels are subject to public regulation and limitation.

What would public death panels be subject to? Ever tried to sue the government?

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Oh, so we are screwed not matter which way we go. Check! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Declare war on Taxes?????? We would be far better off by declaring war on New York and California. Texas has one saving grace. IT'S THE HOME OF SUBSIM. But now if Neal would perhaps move here to Nevada.......... On the point of this thread, Where is HHS going to get the people to run this diabolical. Hire all the employs away from the insurance companies. They have the experience. So we are right back where we started but at a staggering cost and lower quality of heal care. This seems to make sense to some people????????? Magic Edit spelling of Neal, have a good friend who spells it Neil, force of habit. Apologies to Mr. Stevens (won't even try Neal again) __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l Last edited by magic452; 12-03-09 at 03:12 AM.