Navy Seals Indicted

Charlielima · 11-25-09, 11:32 PM

This PC stuff has got to stop:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html
CL

GoldenRivet · 11-26-09, 12:05 AM

you have got to be fu$%# kidding me

its a far left world we live in.

serve in the military - do your job - your reward is to be thrown under the bus.

Onkel Neal · 11-26-09, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlielima

This PC stuff has got to stop:

CL

Amen, brother.

bookworm_020 · 11-26-09, 01:28 AM

Over the top for sure!

PeriscopeDepth · 11-26-09, 02:39 AM

For punching the dbag???? Come on, who cares?

PD

Freiwillige · 11-26-09, 03:33 AM

This makes me absolutely sick! Where is the country I love and grew up in?
Rambo is in the woods crying.

Sad day when whackos take over.

Why is everything I write underlined?

11-26-09, 06:46 AM

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This PC stuff has got to stop:

Really?
Dereliction of duty , making a false statement and impeding a military inquiry are suddenly issues of PC?
And there was me thinking they were very standard under military law.

Skybird · 11-26-09, 07:00 AM

This is sick.

Waging wars? Yes. But no blood, no sweat, no dirt and no violence please. Wage war like I just charmingly wave my hand in an elegant gesture. Make it look easy, simple, clean, civilised and distinguished and as if nothing has happened. Make iut looks like a children's play. Make it running like a righteous heroe's parade under a blue sky and shining sun.

No, this is not just sick. This is perverse.

11-26-09, 08:49 AM

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Waging wars? Yes. But no blood, no sweat, no dirt and no violence please.

It has nothing to do with waging war without vioence, it is about treatment of prisoners after they have been detained and people lying to cover up their alledged crimes.

SteamWake · 11-26-09, 08:52 AM

Its almost as if someone is trying to undermine everything the US does.

Onkel Neal · 11-26-09, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

It has nothing to do with waging war without vioence, it is about treatment of prisoners after they have been detained and people lying to cover up their alledged crimes.

I would agree if their fingers were cut off or something, but a few punches?

Platapus · 11-26-09, 10:37 AM

I doubt very much that the rational of these charges stemmed from the punch. Making false statements and interfering of an investigation is a serious offense.

Before getting all spun up about this, why don't we let the military system handle this?

11-26-09, 11:41 AM

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I would agree if their fingers were cut off or something, but a few punches?

You should know from hundreds of examples across the political, military and civil spectrum that attempts at cover ups often bring more trouble than the alledged crime itself.
So in this case it could have been.....
Hitting a prisoner, oh dear naughty boy have a slap on the wrist and don't do it again.
Whereas what it is now
Lying to your superiors and then messing with an inquiry, silly buggers showing contempt for the chain of command and the military justice system and foolishly trying to screw them over by playing them as mugs.

Blood_splat · 11-26-09, 12:05 PM

I'm just waiting for the day when our military is equipped with nerf guns.

11-27-09, 06:30 PM

They should have taken the Captains Mast instead of the Courts Martial!
Captains Mast is an administrative hearing ,with limited powers, by the unit Commander - If it works the same way as a Defaulters Parade in the Australian Army ,(I'm pretty sure it it does) ,then they would have copped something like a Fine, stoppage of pay for a time or being confined to Barracks for a period of time,(This is'nt as easy as it sounds - if your not working or using the Mess for meals then you have to be in your barracks only!),worse case is you may do 1-2 weeks confinement in a Military prison!.It also gets recorded in your files and can count against you for promotion etc.
By going the Courts Martial route , then these guys are looking at serious jail time and being booted at the end of it!

11-25-09, 11:32 PM	#1
Charlielima Gunner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Schnell Boote Land Posts: 97 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Navy Seals Indicted This PC stuff has got to stop: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html CL __________________

11-26-09, 12:05 AM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	you have got to be fu$%# kidding me its a far left world we live in. serve in the military - do your job - your reward is to be thrown under the bus. __________________

11-26-09, 01:28 AM	#4
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Over the top for sure! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

11-26-09, 07:00 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This is sick. Waging wars? Yes. But no blood, no sweat, no dirt and no violence please. Wage war like I just charmingly wave my hand in an elegant gesture. Make it look easy, simple, clean, civilised and distinguished and as if nothing has happened. Make iut looks like a children's play. Make it running like a righteous heroe's parade under a blue sky and shining sun. No, this is not just sick. This is perverse. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-26-09, 08:52 AM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Its almost as if someone is trying to undermine everything the US does. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

11-26-09, 02:39 AM	#5
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	For punching the dbag???? Come on, who cares? PD

11-26-09, 03:33 AM	#6
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	This makes me absolutely sick! Where is the country I love and grew up in? Rambo is in the woods crying. Sad day when whackos take over. Why is everything I write underlined?

11-26-09, 10:37 AM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I doubt very much that the rational of these charges stemmed from the punch. Making false statements and interfering of an investigation is a serious offense. Before getting all spun up about this, why don't we let the military system handle this? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-26-09, 12:05 PM	#14
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I'm just waiting for the day when our military is equipped with nerf guns.

11-27-09, 06:30 PM	#15
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	They should have taken the Captains Mast instead of the Courts Martial! Captains Mast is an administrative hearing ,with limited powers, by the unit Commander - If it works the same way as a Defaulters Parade in the Australian Army ,(I'm pretty sure it it does) ,then they would have copped something like a Fine, stoppage of pay for a time or being confined to Barracks for a period of time,(This is'nt as easy as it sounds - if your not working or using the Mess for meals then you have to be in your barracks only!),worse case is you may do 1-2 weeks confinement in a Military prison!.It also gets recorded in your files and can count against you for promotion etc. By going the Courts Martial route , then these guys are looking at serious jail time and being booted at the end of it!