Win XP Lockups?

nikbear · 10-08-09, 09:58 AM

Right,where to start? I've been modding my XP powered PC and everything has been going fine,until yesterday,I fitted my Corsair H50 liquid cooling kit,everything fitted fine

So far so good.
Used the PC all that evening and it was running like a dream,switched it off,went to start it up the next morning and now all I get is lockups,nothing but

Reboot it and it wll run for 5-10 mins,very slowly,until it just locks up entirely,forcing a reboot

Nothing has changed software wise,and every thing hardware wise has been checked and double checked and its all good,so whats gone wrong?
Even starting in safe mode doesn't last for long,you think you've got it stable again and then it just hangs

Its just driving me nuts as to what it can be,any suggestions or any ideas would really help cause at this moment its looking like I'm going to have to trash the HD and start again

Thank you.

SteamWake · 10-08-09, 10:10 AM

That really sounds like a heat issue.

I know you said you checked and re-checked but triple check that the heatsink pad is properly seated on the cpu. Make sure all the ram and other cards are properly seated.

Sometimes things run 'normal' heat up 'normally' and when they cool down they move a little, just enough to get a faulty connection somewhere.

Also check that the PSU is up to the task

nikbear · 10-08-09, 01:36 PM

Will check again,The PSU should be up to the job,its an expensive 1000watt job,I'll get back to you and let you know if I find anything and thanks for the suggestions

,I'm baffled as to what it is

SteamWake · 10-08-09, 01:50 PM

I know that when I clean the heatsink on my CPU if it doesent get put back 'just exactly so' the machine boots starts to strap xp then quits.

and I mean just exactly so... its amazing how hard it is to get it right.

nikbear · 10-08-09, 05:07 PM

Right,it would seem to be some sort of software clash between windows defender,windows firewall(which should have been disabled,but somehow re-enabled itself) and Comodo anti-virus protection,its made a right mess of itself

SteamWake · 10-08-09, 05:11 PM

Wait a minute you said you had not made software changes.

Now your in the world of what the hell have I done to which the usual solution is reformatting.

Good luck with that.

nikbear · 10-08-09, 08:51 PM

Thats the thing,some things have re-enabled themselves without me doing a thing,bloody windows

Reece · 10-09-09, 03:08 AM

Have you monitored the CPU temperature to make sure it's not overheating? Did you use good heat transfer paste?
Seems a strange coincident that this happens now, if it's hardware I would think it's either HDD or CPU, and since the new kit I'd say the latter!

Hope the liquid hasn't weeped out!!

nikbear · 10-09-09, 10:02 AM

Got it to start in selective startup mode,it runs ok,then 5 mins in it just locks as soon as you click on any thing,goes to eggtimer and stays there,if you try to shut anything down it say the usual'This program is not responding' box.
I've got a program from ASRock,the mobo makers,that measures temps and they all appear fine

Arclight · 10-09-09, 01:15 PM

What components are cooled by the LC? If you have a heatpipe/heatspreaders on the NB, it would still need airflow for cooling. Sure the kit covers everything that needs a bit of cooling?

I'd still let a fan run in the front and back to get some flow through the case to cool the HDs. Or are they cooled by the LC as well?

Reece · 10-09-09, 08:11 PM

Take a snap of the open case and post it, may not see anything but curious!

nikbear · 10-09-09, 09:07 PM

Will do chaps,will post it up tomorrow

10-08-09, 09:58 AM	#1
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Win XP Lockups? Right,where to start? I've been modding my XP powered PC and everything has been going fine,until yesterday,I fitted my Corsair H50 liquid cooling kit,everything fitted fine So far so good. Used the PC all that evening and it was running like a dream,switched it off,went to start it up the next morning and now all I get is lockups,nothing but Reboot it and it wll run for 5-10 mins,very slowly,until it just locks up entirely,forcing a reboot Nothing has changed software wise,and every thing hardware wise has been checked and double checked and its all good,so whats gone wrong? Even starting in safe mode doesn't last for long,you think you've got it stable again and then it just hangs Its just driving me nuts as to what it can be,any suggestions or any ideas would really help cause at this moment its looking like I'm going to have to trash the HD and start again Thank you. __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-08-09, 10:10 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That really sounds like a heat issue. I know you said you checked and re-checked but triple check that the heatsink pad is properly seated on the cpu. Make sure all the ram and other cards are properly seated. Sometimes things run 'normal' heat up 'normally' and when they cool down they move a little, just enough to get a faulty connection somewhere. Also check that the PSU is up to the task __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-08-09, 01:36 PM	#3
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Will check again,The PSU should be up to the job,its an expensive 1000watt job,I'll get back to you and let you know if I find anything and thanks for the suggestions,I'm baffled as to what it is __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-08-09, 01:50 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I know that when I clean the heatsink on my CPU if it doesent get put back 'just exactly so' the machine boots starts to strap xp then quits. and I mean just exactly so... its amazing how hard it is to get it right. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-08-09, 05:07 PM	#5
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Right,it would seem to be some sort of software clash between windows defender,windows firewall(which should have been disabled,but somehow re-enabled itself) and Comodo anti-virus protection,its made a right mess of itself __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-08-09, 05:11 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Wait a minute you said you had not made software changes. Now your in the world of what the hell have I done to which the usual solution is reformatting. Good luck with that. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-08-09, 08:51 PM	#7
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Thats the thing,some things have re-enabled themselves without me doing a thing,bloody windows __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-09-09, 03:08 AM	#8
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Have you monitored the CPU temperature to make sure it's not overheating? Did you use good heat transfer paste? Seems a strange coincident that this happens now, if it's hardware I would think it's either HDD or CPU, and since the new kit I'd say the latter! Hope the liquid hasn't weeped out!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-09-09, 10:02 AM	#9
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Got it to start in selective startup mode,it runs ok,then 5 mins in it just locks as soon as you click on any thing,goes to eggtimer and stays there,if you try to shut anything down it say the usual'This program is not responding' box. I've got a program from ASRock,the mobo makers,that measures temps and they all appear fine __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-09-09, 01:15 PM	#10
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	What components are cooled by the LC? If you have a heatpipe/heatspreaders on the NB, it would still need airflow for cooling. Sure the kit covers everything that needs a bit of cooling? I'd still let a fan run in the front and back to get some flow through the case to cool the HDs. Or are they cooled by the LC as well? __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

10-09-09, 08:11 PM	#11
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Take a snap of the open case and post it, may not see anything but curious! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-09-09, 09:07 PM	#12
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Will do chaps,will post it up tomorrow __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.