Offtopic: What The H---?

Pioneer · 09-11-09, 09:22 PM

My apologies to Neal for bringing this here.

On Tuesday, daughter #3 returned to school as a sophomore. During the day the school suspended all lessons and piped in the President's speech to every classroom.

Today, there was no minute of silence, the school flag wasn't even at half mast.

Am I working myself up for no reason, or is this utter bull****?

Task Force · 09-11-09, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer

My apologies to Neal for bringing this here.

On Tuesday, daughter #3 returned to school as a sophomore. During the day the school suspended all lessons and piped in the President's speech to every classroom.

Today, there was no minute of silence, the school flag wasn't even at half mast.

Am I working myself up for no reason, or is this utter bull****?

yep... old task force here. (also in 10th grade, should be Jr... but thats anouther story all together.lol) was amaised there was no speach... (at least we did not have to see that Obama speach.) there use to be a speach and all... but they didnt do it...

No one even spoke of it.

wonder if they will do anything for pearl harbor... prolly not...

Sledgehammer427 · 09-12-09, 01:36 AM

we had someone play taps on Sep 11th, we even flown our flag at half mast.
strange though
I guess we are living in such a fast-paced society we can't even pay respect to the dead anymore

Arclight · 09-12-09, 02:42 AM

I don't live in the US and even I was amazed by the lack of attention.

Aramike · 09-12-09, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer

My apologies to Neal for bringing this here.

On Tuesday, daughter #3 returned to school as a sophomore. During the day the school suspended all lessons and piped in the President's speech to every classroom.

Today, there was no minute of silence, the school flag wasn't even at half mast.

Am I working myself up for no reason, or is this utter bull****?

I think you're working yourself up for no reason. 9/11 will always be in our memories but we absolutely cannot define ourselves by the event. As such, while I would prefer any school to have a proper memorial, I cannot fault them for simply overlooking it. That being said, though - should the school avoid any rememberance due to political factors, I would have a problem with it.

Either way, there's enough in life to stress out over than this.

Carotio · 09-12-09, 05:29 AM

I'm not from USA, but isn't it more convenient to celebrate the happy events in public, and just silently and in private remember the unhappy events?

Foxtrot · 09-12-09, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Carotio

I'm not from USA, but isn't it more convenient to celebrate the happy events in public, and just silently and in private remember the unhappy events?

You are right.

In other coutries (say Finland because I was there during last school shootings): let’s quickly sweep things under the rug, get international eyes off Finland. We’re a little, safe country.

Now in US: The U.S.’s reaction to this kind of situation would be rubber wristbands and colored-ribbons and sit-ins and parades and demonstrations and protests and special-awareness-holidays and politicians-making-bullsh!t-laws-and-promises (think Patriot Act) and a media frenzy and yearly-TV-specials-to-remind-us and morning-show-interviews-with-the-victim’s-cousins and FOX NEWS propaganda and CNN paranoia and documentaries and movies and Dr. Phil and Oprah etc…

Me thinks we should not forget September 11, 1973..

Skybird · 09-12-09, 05:58 AM

There have been ceremonies in the US. And even foreign media mentioned them.

I think it is just an issue of individual taste and habit whether or not one sees the ammount of official rememberance done as sufficient according to one's own views, or not.

And doing these kind of things certainly can be exaggerated, even pathologic. there even is the risk one starts to see oneself as the biggest victim of all time, forgetting the rest of the world and it's history about it. There is even a risk of turning rememebrance into a hollow ritual that way, with it's true living meaning one day totally lost and forgotten. than the rite has become a life of it's own, shaping realities where it shouldn't.

you can imagine there are yearly ceremonies inGermany of things linked to the WWII, and the Nazi era. and honstely said: almost nobody pays much attention anymore - exactly because it has become a regular rite of routine.

Life goes on. Maybe some chose to have hard feelings about that. But I think instead that it is a reason to be happy. Life goes on - that does not mean not to draw consequences and learn from the past. It means one should not freeze in an attitude of always gazing back.

How would I do a rememberance day? Not on a special day at all, and by focussing on the special subjective meaning the event or time in question has for me, and me alone. Flag-waving and speeches - too easily becomes pathetic. Not my cup of tea.

Safe-Keeper · 09-12-09, 11:48 AM

Eight years have passed. I agree the flag could perhaps be flown on half pole, but a full-fledged moment of silence or other ceremony every year is too much.

Dowly · 09-12-09, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Eight years have passed. I agree the flag could perhaps be flown on half pole, but a full-fledged moment of silence or other ceremony every year is too much.

Yeh, I agree.

Aramike · 09-12-09, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Eight years have passed. I agree the flag could perhaps be flown on half pole, but a full-fledged moment of silence or other ceremony every year is too much.

Wait, you think a MOMENT every year is too much?

Platapus · 09-12-09, 06:39 PM

I think that by now pretty much everyone has heard of the 911 attacks. People should be allowed to remember it in their own way and in private.

Public displays are really not needed.

09-11-09, 09:22 PM	#1
Pioneer Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: AU in the USA Posts: 349 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Offtopic: What The H---? My apologies to Neal for bringing this here. On Tuesday, daughter #3 returned to school as a sophomore. During the day the school suspended all lessons and piped in the President's speech to every classroom. Today, there was no minute of silence, the school flag wasn't even at half mast. Am I working myself up for no reason, or is this utter bull**? __________________ An AU writer marooned in the USA. The American Pioneer story continues @ www.grantmadden.com Latest publication: Chicken Soup for the Soul Angels and Miracles**

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Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I don't live in the US and even I was amazed by the lack of attention. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

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Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I'm not from USA, but isn't it more convenient to celebrate the happy events in public, and just silently and in private remember the unhappy events? __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

09-12-09, 05:58 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	There have been ceremonies in the US. And even foreign media mentioned them. I think it is just an issue of individual taste and habit whether or not one sees the ammount of official rememberance done as sufficient according to one's own views, or not. And doing these kind of things certainly can be exaggerated, even pathologic. there even is the risk one starts to see oneself as the biggest victim of all time, forgetting the rest of the world and it's history about it. There is even a risk of turning rememebrance into a hollow ritual that way, with it's true living meaning one day totally lost and forgotten. than the rite has become a life of it's own, shaping realities where it shouldn't. you can imagine there are yearly ceremonies inGermany of things linked to the WWII, and the Nazi era. and honstely said: almost nobody pays much attention anymore - exactly because it has become a regular rite of routine. Life goes on. Maybe some chose to have hard feelings about that. But I think instead that it is a reason to be happy. Life goes on - that does not mean not to draw consequences and learn from the past. It means one should not freeze in an attitude of always gazing back. How would I do a rememberance day? Not on a special day at all, and by focussing on the special subjective meaning the event or time in question has for me, and me alone. Flag-waving and speeches - too easily becomes pathetic. Not my cup of tea. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-12-09 at 06:49 AM.

09-12-09, 11:48 AM	#9
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Eight years have passed. I agree the flag could perhaps be flown on half pole, but a full-fledged moment of silence or other ceremony every year is too much. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

09-12-09, 01:36 AM	#3
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	we had someone play taps on Sep 11th, we even flown our flag at half mast. strange though I guess we are living in such a fast-paced society we can't even pay respect to the dead anymore __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

09-12-09, 06:39 PM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,373 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I think that by now pretty much everyone has heard of the 911 attacks. People should be allowed to remember it in their own way and in private. Public displays are really not needed. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.