The reality sea is the most important in submarine game [Merged]

W_clear · 08-21-09, 11:05 PM

The reality of sea should have:

1.The transparency of the sea must be high.

2.Refraction of the water needs of two or more.

3.need wave splash and seaform.

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I very much hope to join their production team, obligations.

donut · 08-22-09, 12:11 AM

Ubi might tie your skills.

W_clear · 08-22-09, 10:32 AM

From the figure reflected in the seawater, I think it is the failure of the seawater.

But the splash to be successful .Not enough water reflection

Captain von Keldunk · 08-22-09, 10:53 AM

Too early to tell really, in those pics not much wind.
Environment is supposed to be better in SH5.

AVGWarhawk · 08-22-09, 11:52 AM

It certainly is not wet enough

Kromus · 08-22-09, 12:05 PM

It seems to be same as in SH4

I want to see real water finally that wakes crashes when sub/ship hits them...
Not just a textured sealevel that changes itself and run through the boat upwards/downwards without any collision (no more flying submarines in 15m per sec weather).
I hope they change this, but since engine seems to be pretty much ready by now, I really dont know.

Jimbuna · 08-22-09, 01:35 PM

I'd like to see a few more movie clips before making any judgement.

Sailor Steve · 08-22-09, 02:20 PM

4. Variable clarity. Sometimes the water is so clear you can see the bottom 100 feet or more below your ship. Sometimes you can't see one foot down from the surface.

Hartmann · 08-22-09, 03:16 PM

I think that is too early to judge the game,perhaps they will use a improved Sh4 engine with more effects and DX10 graphics, but with the enviroment mods could be really amazing

mookiemookie · 08-22-09, 03:18 PM

Game companies are notorious for touching up their screenshots, so I think making a judgment based on the two or three we have is very premature.

Shiplord · 08-22-09, 03:28 PM

The GamesCom trailer is a movie trailer, like the intro movie of SHIII. Made with game elements but postprocessed with cinematic filters, the same for all the press screenshots. The real game graphics will differ from the trailer, as in SHIII. Only when real ingame movies or screenshots can be seen, we will be able to assess how the water in the game will look.

Frederf · 08-22-09, 08:00 PM

Water graphics are exactly the type of thing that cannot be judged until very late in the process. Small changes to water physics values and/or missing shaders can make a huge difference to the final appearance.

Kromus · 08-22-09, 08:08 PM

Those screens are pretty good (realistic in DX10 terms, if you click on that preview link, first 5 screens are actual gameplay last 2 not [[ I only wish that once will actual diving procedure look as good as on 7th screen, 6th is some strange drawing ]] and trailer is ofcourse, scripted).

Only thing I don`t like is water - so far it looks same as in SH4 (as I said, even if it`s maybe only "test water engine", I don`t think they gonna change whole engine in those 7 months left).

Edit: About "shaders and values", I think they gonna need to reprocess whole engine not just some values. I wouldn`t care even for that "oily and plastic" look, If they just implemented real physics engine where boat would go through waves (big wave hitting coning tower etc.) and not water through ship...

donut · 08-22-09, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It certainly is not wet enough

Subs are much to dry, see Das Boot Bridge, like Niagra Falls.

Task Force · 08-22-09, 11:28 PM

Well... I can almost garente that you will see better water effects.. but nothing like say... crysis or something...

08-21-09, 11:05 PM	#1
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	The reality sea is the most important in submarine game [Merged] The reality of sea should have: 1.The transparency of the sea must be high. 2.Refraction of the water needs of two or more. 3.need wave splash and seaform. ................ I very much hope to join their production team, obligations.

08-22-09, 12:11 AM	#2
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Be careful what you wish for. Ubi might tie your skills.

08-22-09, 10:32 AM	#3
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	I don't agree the seawater of SH5 From the figure reflected in the seawater, I think it is the failure of the seawater. But the splash to be successful .Not enough water reflection

08-22-09, 10:53 AM	#4
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	no wind no waves no foam Too early to tell really, in those pics not much wind. Environment is supposed to be better in SH5. __________________ SH

08-22-09, 11:52 AM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It certainly is not wet enough __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-22-09, 12:05 PM	#6
Kromus Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 250 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	It seems to be same as in SH4 I want to see real water finally that wakes crashes when sub/ship hits them... Not just a textured sealevel that changes itself and run through the boat upwards/downwards without any collision (no more flying submarines in 15m per sec weather). I hope they change this, but since engine seems to be pretty much ready by now, I really dont know.

08-22-09, 01:35 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,198 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'd like to see a few more movie clips before making any judgement. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-22-09, 02:20 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	4. Variable clarity. Sometimes the water is so clear you can see the bottom 100 feet or more below your ship. Sometimes you can't see one foot down from the surface. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-22-09, 03:16 PM	#9
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I think that is too early to judge the game,perhaps they will use a improved Sh4 engine with more effects and DX10 graphics, but with the enviroment mods could be really amazing __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

08-22-09, 03:18 PM	#10
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Game companies are notorious for touching up their screenshots, so I think making a judgment based on the two or three we have is very premature. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

08-22-09, 03:28 PM	#11
Shiplord Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 109 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The GamesCom trailer is a movie trailer, like the intro movie of SHIII. Made with game elements but postprocessed with cinematic filters, the same for all the press screenshots. The real game graphics will differ from the trailer, as in SHIII. Only when real ingame movies or screenshots can be seen, we will be able to assess how the water in the game will look.

08-22-09, 08:00 PM	#12
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Water graphics are exactly the type of thing that cannot be judged until very late in the process. Small changes to water physics values and/or missing shaders can make a huge difference to the final appearance.

08-22-09, 08:08 PM	#13
Kromus Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 250 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Those screens are pretty good (realistic in DX10 terms, if you click on that preview link, first 5 screens are actual gameplay last 2 not [[ I only wish that once will actual diving procedure look as good as on 7th screen, 6th is some strange drawing ]] and trailer is ofcourse, scripted). Only thing I don`t like is water - so far it looks same as in SH4 (as I said, even if it`s maybe only "test water engine", I don`t think they gonna change whole engine in those 7 months left). Edit: About "shaders and values", I think they gonna need to reprocess whole engine not just some values. I wouldn`t care even for that "oily and plastic" look, If they just implemented real physics engine where boat would go through waves (big wave hitting coning tower etc.) and not water through ship... Last edited by Kromus; 08-22-09 at 08:20 PM.

08-22-09, 11:28 PM	#15
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well... I can almost garente that you will see better water effects.. but nothing like say... crysis or something... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"