Next Total War on the horizon

Arclight · 08-19-09, 02:00 PM

Sega Announce New Total War Title

Bit out of the blue, but there it is. Picking up were Empire left off, the next game is centered around Napoleons exploits. Considering it's not just focussed on an era but also on an individual, you can expect a more story-driven experience.

Release 2010.

I'd rather have seen this as an expansion for Empire, but no such luck.

Lionclaw · 08-19-09, 04:00 PM

Have they given up on Empire? Isn't it a bit early to announce the follower so soon after the previous title?

Oh well, their earlier games were better though. Too bad Medieval Total War doesn't work with Nvidia 8+ series with the mouse issues. That was a classic!

Rome is up there as well, Medieval 2 is quite good now with the mods.

Biggles · 08-19-09, 06:21 PM

Not a surprising era to proceed on, but it did happen early.

Raptor1 · 08-19-09, 06:22 PM

I hope it's not Steam only, that way I could enjoy the multiplayer without the Steam lobby bug they seem intent on not fixing.

Ah, well, let's see how it turns out.

Richard G · 09-04-09, 01:01 PM

Empire was the 2nd worst game I've bought in the last 20 years. (the first being some Scottish Braveheart title I can't remember now). Gameplay, and game stability are complete crap.

If you want real historical Napoleon era warfare, you need Histwar.

ReallyDedPoet · 09-04-09, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard G

(the first being some Scottish Braveheart title I can't remember now)

Yeah, that game on the surface had potential, but it was bad beyond
belief

Raptor1 · 09-05-09, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Legionary74

I think Empire is the best game ever made

Fuff, don't make me laugh. ETW is a good game, but it lacks the historical scale needed, therefore it is a failure. All it does is represent medieval-era formation battles with guns and doesn't capture the feel of warfare at the time at all.

Arclight · 09-05-09, 06:59 PM

Still, it's the only game I know that let's you fight battles like that. It has it's merrits, but I wouldn't go further than saying it's a good game within it's genre.

Make that decent, RTW is good.

Task Force · 09-05-09, 11:36 PM

etw was lacking in some departments...

the sea battles were lacking... they didnt give the right scale... it looked kind of like a bathtub battle...

the land battles were way too small...

there were far too fiew regions. like I heard before, france is not made into regions, so all you have to do is capture paris

the units are extremly generic all the european line infantry units look the same...

it is a good game, just lacking... (and extremly unstable.)

*yes like raptor said too fiew regions.*

Raptor1 · 09-06-09, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

there were far too many regions. like I heard before, france is not made into regions, so all you have to do is capture paris

Too few, you mean.

Melonfish · 09-07-09, 06:17 AM

WANTS IT PRECIOUS!

i've been waiting for this since medieval ffs! seriously i can't wait!

SteamWake · 09-07-09, 07:55 AM

I thought the Napolian thing was just an expansion of ETW

karamazovnew · 09-07-09, 11:03 AM

How could you like Empire better than Rome? First of all, Empire was waaaaay to easy. I conquered the entire world map in 1762 with the brits and had to spend 37 years of end turn clicking. In the end I had fortified and upgraded EVERYTHING and still had millions to spare on the lowest tax possible. And that was on the hardest difficulty, I've never had to declare war on anyone, I was attacked on all sides.

The land battles were horrendous. I lost many generals because of my own idiotic cannons. Cavalry and cannons were almost useless and the only unit I've ever used was the line infantry. The AI made formation positioning and firing after movement so annoying that I usually won battles by selecting all units and charging in meelee. But even with all these issues I've won battles while being outnumbered 4 to 1. I laughed at every fortified army as I pounded they walls and killed them in the rubble. Empire sucked big time because of it's controls and friendly AI. I'm waiting for Europa Barbarorum 2.

Raptor1 · 09-07-09, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legionary74

That is real life mate...

Friendly fire is deadly.

Generals, who needs em? I see them useless, sure they give a TINY TINY boost of morale, but useless nonetheless.

Rome total war was just too easy to play campaign... I mean, a couple units in the start you have half of Europe at your knees.

Atleast in Empire, sure theres less regions but they're heavily defended.
ETW is historically accurate, not Rome.

ETW is about as close to historical accuracy as the Atlantic is to being a pond. Rome had some anachronisms and fantasy units, but at least the gameplay fit the era.

Arclight · 09-07-09, 09:40 PM

I think an easier question would be "what makes it accurate?".

I have to agree with Raptor; the gameplay is just most suited to Rome. I didn't like the addition of firearms in M2TW, and I certainly don't care for it in ETW.

Imho a good melee is far more interesting than people firing muskets at each other; they spend 3/4 of the time reloading, ie nothings happening. When I started playing, I just fired a single volley and then charged before they could reload anyway.

08-19-09, 02:00 PM	#1
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Next Total War on the horizon Sega Announce New Total War Title Bit out of the blue, but there it is. Picking up were Empire left off, the next game is centered around Napoleons exploits. Considering it's not just focussed on an era but also on an individual, you can expect a more story-driven experience. Release 2010. I'd rather have seen this as an expansion for Empire, but no such luck. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-19-09, 06:21 PM	#3
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Not a surprising era to proceed on, but it did happen early. __________________

08-19-09, 06:22 PM	#4
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I hope it's not Steam only, that way I could enjoy the multiplayer without the Steam lobby bug they seem intent on not fixing. Ah, well, let's see how it turns out. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

09-04-09, 01:01 PM	#5
Richard G Mate Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 52 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Empire was the 2nd worst game I've bought in the last 20 years. (the first being some Scottish Braveheart title I can't remember now). Gameplay, and game stability are complete crap. If you want real historical Napoleon era warfare, you need Histwar. __________________ Sagiere-Classis-Destructum

09-05-09, 06:59 PM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Still, it's the only game I know that let's you fight battles like that. It has it's merrits, but I wouldn't go further than saying it's a good game within it's genre. Make that decent, RTW is good. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-19-09, 04:00 PM	#2
Lionclaw Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,006 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Have they given up on Empire? Isn't it a bit early to announce the follower so soon after the previous title? Oh well, their earlier games were better though. Too bad Medieval Total War doesn't work with Nvidia 8+ series with the mouse issues. That was a classic! Rome is up there as well, Medieval 2 is quite good now with the mods.

09-05-09, 11:36 PM	#9
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	etw was lacking in some departments... the sea battles were lacking... they didnt give the right scale... it looked kind of like a bathtub battle... the land battles were way too small... there were far too fiew regions. like I heard before, france is not made into regions, so all you have to do is capture paris the units are extremly generic all the european line infantry units look the same... it is a good game, just lacking... (and extremly unstable.) yes like raptor said too fiew regions. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 09-08-09 at 01:48 PM.

09-07-09, 06:17 AM	#11
Melonfish XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Warrington, UK Posts: 417 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	WANTS IT PRECIOUS! i've been waiting for this since medieval ffs! seriously i can't wait!

09-07-09, 07:55 AM	#12
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I thought the Napolian thing was just an expansion of ETW __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

09-07-09, 11:03 AM	#13
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	How could you like Empire better than Rome? First of all, Empire was waaaaay to easy. I conquered the entire world map in 1762 with the brits and had to spend 37 years of end turn clicking. In the end I had fortified and upgraded EVERYTHING and still had millions to spare on the lowest tax possible. And that was on the hardest difficulty, I've never had to declare war on anyone, I was attacked on all sides. The land battles were horrendous. I lost many generals because of my own idiotic cannons. Cavalry and cannons were almost useless and the only unit I've ever used was the line infantry. The AI made formation positioning and firing after movement so annoying that I usually won battles by selecting all units and charging in meelee. But even with all these issues I've won battles while being outnumbered 4 to 1. I laughed at every fortified army as I pounded they walls and killed them in the rubble. Empire sucked big time because of it's controls and friendly AI. I'm waiting for Europa Barbarorum 2.

09-07-09, 09:40 PM	#15
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I think an easier question would be "what makes it accurate?". I have to agree with Raptor; the gameplay is just most suited to Rome. I didn't like the addition of firearms in M2TW, and I certainly don't care for it in ETW. Imho a good melee is far more interesting than people firing muskets at each other; they spend 3/4 of the time reloading, ie nothings happening. When I started playing, I just fired a single volley and then charged before they could reload anyway. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.