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Old 08-14-09, 02:57 AM   #1
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Default Now we are sending soldiers to catch pirates too

The brand new Norwegian frigate "KNM Fridtjof Nansen" will hit pirate waters tonight:

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Old 08-14-09, 06:02 AM   #3
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It looks exactly like the Danish vessel, which sailed around the Horn of Africa for 6 months to a year. About same size. I think it caught pirates twice (and scared off some others too).
First time, they caught them, they didn't know what to do with them, the politicians hadn't fixed orders for that when dispatching, so finally they had to release them...
Second time, they caught some in the act of highjacking a Dutch vessel. Then came the mumbo jumbo... who is gonna do something about it this time. Finally, I think, the Dutch decided to procecute them at a Dutch court. Rumours tell that the pirates were so happy about the conditions in the Dutch prison that they considered to ask for asylum after any sentence, since Somalia no doubt would object to get them back....

Again we're too soft against those
Just hang them right away or throw them overboard without their small boats, so that they can die the pirate way....
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She looks nice....with a good all round capability squeezed into a not too large platform.

Make sure the pirates are showered and clean before inviting them aboard.
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Old 08-14-09, 06:24 AM   #5
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One should not generlaise all pirates in the various global hotspots, which in the main are Nigeria and Somalia nowadays. In nigeria, as well as Malaysia in the past pefore their military started to seriously crack down on them (Malacca), pirates were fishermen who suffered from the fact that Western armadas of fishtrawlers emptied their coastal areas of any fish, leaving behind empty water that could not feed families and give local fishermen no income anymore. Here, to tackle piracy you have to tackle the economic impact of the foreigner's presence. In Somalia, however, piracy formed up as a result of the anarchy in the land, local crime, warlords and their militias discovering the profits in this business, and their militias as well as Islamists making piracy an income to finance their private armies. To say that like in Malaysia and Nigeria it is just poor fishermen joining the pirates, is a bit too rosy and naive. In Malaysia, the offensive of the Malaysian navy was accompanied by political and social projects as well, which had an existing government strong enough to be in control as a precondition. This is not the case in Somalia. Piracy in Nigeria, almost unnoted from global public, is blossoming unhindered, not opposed either by military nor social-political attempts. Blossoming means: growing, it does not mean that the level of piracy there is en par with what we see in Somalia, where in the past 12-16 months the number of pirate units have tripled, their armament have improved, and their operaional area have been massively widened. It was said that the Somalis now even try to get access to modern guided missiles. If they succeed, this could become a real threat for the western warships operating there. I wonder how long western governments want to wait before facing the grim reality.

For Somalia I only see a tactic of using unforgiving firepower as a solution: shoot on sight and also starting to offensively bomb and destroy all places on land used by operating pirate units, as well as the private properties of their leaders , since on land with it'S nightmarish mixture of civil war, criminal warloards, religious fanatism, anarchy and absence of any government there is nothing we can do to imporve the situation of Somalia without massively invading the place with ground troops, minimising what has been seen in Iraq and Afghanistan so far. So just cut short the symptoms, and beyond that: stay out there. Nobody wants to do engage in grand scale inside Somalia, and the future will see many more Somalias appearing in Africa this century.

The Malaysian model of using both political-economic and military tactics would not work in Somalia, due to the place'S anarchy, which leaves us only with the use of force. In Nigeria, a political and social and economic solution to the problem probably is possible. the problem with Nigeria's government is, though, that it is so very corrupt.
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Old 08-26-09, 08:40 AM   #6
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The lads rescued an Italian ship from pirates today:

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thats a helluva ship there, what I would give to sail on her. as unlikely it is to see me and my nasty hair on any proper navy ship
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