I'm off to the Black Sea!

sharkbit · 06-29-09, 08:48 AM

After having a terrible time in the 1943 in the Atlantic/Med, I'm trying a career in a IID out of Constanza in 10/42.

Any fresh intel/thoughts from anyone else that has tried the Black Sea?

I did a search and came up with some good info, but was wondering if there was anything recent out there.

Thanks.

msalama · 06-29-09, 09:27 AM

Easy enough for the 1st year or so, but gets increasingly dangerous after say late 43 - the air cover gets better and the escorts start to receive radar sets, plus get more experienced anyway. I should know, I just lost a skipper there

But it's a fun theatre nevertheless, and the canoe of course rocks as always

sharkbit · 06-29-09, 10:33 AM

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But it's a fun theatre nevertheless, and the canoe of course rocks as always

I'm looking forward to sailing a canoe. Gotta make all 5 eels count. Gone are the 20+ eels in a IX.
Last time I sailed a canoe was early war for a couple of patrols around England in the stock game.

I was looking at uboat.net at some of the tonnages scored in the Black Sea. Pretty paltry. Looked like the best scoring boat was U-20 with a total of about 11500 tons over a number of patrols.

Seems there was a lot of small targets (<1000 tons) and the biggest looked like around 7000 tons.
Looks like I'm going to have to take what I can get.

BulSoldier · 06-29-09, 11:15 AM

I have done only 1 patrol in there and funny i found rather large passanger ship, cant remember the tonnage but probably was more than u 20 total tonage

msalama · 06-29-09, 12:05 PM

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Seems there was a lot of small targets (<1000 tons) and the biggest looked like around 7000 tons.

Yep, small tankers and dry cargo ships (<5000GRT) for the most part, although you may see a 8000GRT troop carrier every now and then.

Happy hunting Herr Kaleun!

Pohl · 06-29-09, 01:14 PM

I'm trying to escape from russian DD's in the black sea as I write this, I'm hurt pretty bad and lost my watch officer due to a collision (at least that's what I think) I still have 1 torpedo in my 3rd tube but it's destroyed

you will have some fun in that career with the Type IID @ max speed surfaced of 13 knots

and you will certainly miss the 20+ torpedos of the IX

danurve · 06-29-09, 02:35 PM

Done a few duck carrers in the Black Sea, they are good fun, and a challenge to rack up tonnage. Most of the activity is in the N/E areas, small convoys, a few troopships smaller tankers & cargo ships. Finished off more then a handfull with the AA gun aiming for the lower stern.

Good time trying to get through the Med and escape too.

Hitman · 06-29-09, 03:22 PM

I have been finding (GWX3) steadily small convoys with large troop transports on them along the east coast. The real U-Boots found mostly small units, but unfortunately SH3/GWX/NYGM etc. lack 1000 ton ships, they are mostly 2000+ tons vessels. In GWX you can find some, but a more accurate representation of the Black Sea theatre of operations would have meant smaller vessels. Overall, it is anyway a great campaign in GWX3, I loved the detail in populating harbours, giving nets and minefields where appropiate, etc.

A campaign sure worth it.

Jimbuna · 06-29-09, 03:27 PM

The Black Sea is not for those who like to rack up large tonnage scores.....pretty difficult with a Type II anyway

BasilY · 06-29-09, 09:56 PM

Watch out for flying trucks.

sharkbit · 06-30-09, 10:25 AM

Loads of fun so far in the Black Sea

. Quite a different experience so far.
The Type IID takes some getting used to, but I like her a lot.

10/5/42:
Third day of the patrol in the eastern part of the Black Sea, patrolling along the coast.

I run into a 3 ship convoy escorted by 2 Novik class destroyers. During the approach, the hydrophones pick up other warship sounds in the distance.

I torpedo the two lead freighters, one sunk and the other slowing down.

I feel I kicked over a hornets nest. I have the two Noviks up there and the two warship contacts have joined the fun. They turned out to be Uragan destroyer escorts.
They're all buzzing around up there dropping DC's on me, but they seem pretty inaccurate and I'm deep and slowly slipping away.

I even took a peak with external cam and there were a couple of Lend Lease Hurricanes buzzing around up there.

06-29-09, 08:48 AM	#1
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I'm off to the Black Sea! After having a terrible time in the 1943 in the Atlantic/Med, I'm trying a career in a IID out of Constanza in 10/42. Any fresh intel/thoughts from anyone else that has tried the Black Sea? I did a search and came up with some good info, but was wondering if there was anything recent out there. Thanks. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

06-29-09, 11:15 AM	#4
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I have done only 1 patrol in there and funny i found rather large passanger ship, cant remember the tonnage but probably was more than u 20 total tonage __________________ By the hour !

06-29-09, 01:14 PM	#6
Pohl Sparky Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 157 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I'm trying to escape from russian DD's in the black sea as I write this, I'm hurt pretty bad and lost my watch officer due to a collision (at least that's what I think) I still have 1 torpedo in my 3rd tube but it's destroyed you will have some fun in that career with the Type IID @ max speed surfaced of 13 knots and you will certainly miss the 20+ torpedos of the IX __________________ Current Careers: U-177 Type IXD2, 10th Flotilla March 13, 1943 U-3502 Type XXI, 7th/13th Flotilla April 14, 1942 100% realism, GWX 3.0, SH3 Commander 3.2

06-29-09, 02:35 PM	#7
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Done a few duck carrers in the Black Sea, they are good fun, and a challenge to rack up tonnage. Most of the activity is in the N/E areas, small convoys, a few troopships smaller tankers & cargo ships. Finished off more then a handfull with the AA gun aiming for the lower stern. Good time trying to get through the Med and escape too. __________________

06-29-09, 03:22 PM	#8
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I have been finding (GWX3) steadily small convoys with large troop transports on them along the east coast. The real U-Boots found mostly small units, but unfortunately SH3/GWX/NYGM etc. lack 1000 ton ships, they are mostly 2000+ tons vessels. In GWX you can find some, but a more accurate representation of the Black Sea theatre of operations would have meant smaller vessels. Overall, it is anyway a great campaign in GWX3, I loved the detail in populating harbours, giving nets and minefields where appropiate, etc. A campaign sure worth it. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

06-29-09, 09:27 AM	#2
msalama Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In an octopus's garden Posts: 565 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Easy enough for the 1st year or so, but gets increasingly dangerous after say late 43 - the air cover gets better and the escorts start to receive radar sets, plus get more experienced anyway. I should know, I just lost a skipper there But it's a fun theatre nevertheless, and the canoe of course rocks as always

06-29-09, 03:27 PM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The Black Sea is not for those who like to rack up large tonnage scores.....pretty difficult with a Type II anyway __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-29-09, 09:56 PM	#10
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Watch out for flying trucks.

06-30-09, 10:25 AM	#11
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Loads of fun so far in the Black Sea . Quite a different experience so far. The Type IID takes some getting used to, but I like her a lot. 10/5/42: Third day of the patrol in the eastern part of the Black Sea, patrolling along the coast. I run into a 3 ship convoy escorted by 2 Novik class destroyers. During the approach, the hydrophones pick up other warship sounds in the distance. I torpedo the two lead freighters, one sunk and the other slowing down. I feel I kicked over a hornets nest. I have the two Noviks up there and the two warship contacts have joined the fun. They turned out to be Uragan destroyer escorts. They're all buzzing around up there dropping DC's on me, but they seem pretty inaccurate and I'm deep and slowly slipping away. I even took a peak with external cam and there were a couple of Lend Lease Hurricanes buzzing around up there. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”