patches and mods

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 10:10 AM

Hello folks

I bought SH4 when it first came out, and after a brief and fairly boring excursion into the big wet, I went back to SH3. Now I am back again, keen to give it another go, and came here looking to see if there were any patches or upgrades I ought to put on to the basic game before I get stuck in. I have nHanced it as best I can and then gone to the download page and there see a number of mods - but which to choose and is there anything I need to put on first?

My system is XPSP3, running two Geforce 7600 PCI-E's in SLI mode with the little bridge thingy joining them together, I have 2Mb ddr2 Ram, which is the max, and it is a 3.4 GHz P4 processor.

One other thing you may be able to help me with though not strictly related.

I also play the X-series space games, and they are very demanding, which is why we got this system in the first place, but I have always had a small problem when in that game, in that when approaching a space-gate, which is when it is most noticeable, every few seconds - ish, there is a slight pause. It isn't jerky the way you get when you just don't have sufficient ram, its as if the processor is taking a breath before it does the next bit. The game is still playable, though I think too much activity on screen might make it worse, but it does spoil it for me. Would it be to do with SLI? The reason I ask is because I loaded the game onto my sons computer just to test it out, and it seemed to go much more smoothly with that - and he has only one card and no SLI....
Anyways, all help, advice and suggestions ( nice ones that is) gratefully received

kiwi_2005 · 06-17-09, 10:35 AM

For the X series problem and are you talking about X2, X3 spacesims? Then go to the other games thread here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=177 There's a thread up about X3 atm they might be able to help with the gfx issues

For mods just head to SH4 Fleetboat mods category
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=219

Grab the Uboat missions addon if you haven't got it.

atm im only running one major mod - Trigger Maru 1.7

Others i personally recommend. Found in SH4 Fleetboat mods section
Game fixes only mod
Fall of the Rising Sun
RSRD
Pacific enviroment 4

Found in SH4 ATO mods section:

Atlantic Campaign for SH4
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140129

Atlantic-Pacific Submarine Warfare Mod by w_clear
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151592

Anyways there's so many good mods out its quite hard to stick to just one. So best to try them all then see what you want to stick with.

Good hunting

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 10:37 AM

thank you kiwi

Armistead · 06-17-09, 01:29 PM

You're a little on the low end spec wise, but the game should still be playable.

The mods improve the game 200%. TMO vs RFB...matter of choice, both are great, but I wouldn't play without RSRDC...the best mod out there as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think the game uses SLI, but maybe someone else knows.

FIREWALL · 06-17-09, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

You're a little on the low end spec wise, but the game should still be playable.

The mods improve the game 200%. TMO vs RFB...matter of choice, both are great, but I wouldn't play without RSRDC...the best mod out there as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think the game uses SLI, but maybe someone else knows.

I'm sure she meant 2GB of ram. And she far exceeds the specs for running SH4 modded or not.

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AVGWarhawk · 06-17-09, 01:50 PM

No, I would say the specs on the machine are very good. It will not be 100 FPS performance but certainly smooth play.

As far as mods, if you like the uboats get operations Monsun (OM). There are other mods you can add to OM to enrich the game. If you want to play fleets use RFB or TMO. Both really good mods. TMO is a good balanced mod for the fleets. RFB is shooting for more realism. I recommend RSRD(run silent run deep) for either RFB or TMO.

Welcome to the sunny side of life

FIREWALL · 06-17-09, 02:03 PM

While I highly recommend Multi- Install.

You can put them in jsgme and check them all out separately that way too.

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 02:17 PM

Firewall, I Did mean 2 GB- silly ol me.

I have put the 1.4 patch on SH4 now, and see an improvement in the appearance of the scenery, and the crew - much more lifelike - so that is good, but I have a strange effect appearing on the water according to the angle I am looking at it, and it is also evident in the command room. A banded effect, greys and blacks and lighter stripes, almost like a moire interference fringe, if you know what I mean ( may not have spelled that right). I expect it is me doing something wrong in nHancer or summat, and I am about to try it with the mod that removes grainyness, but if you can put your seasoned fingers on it and can say "AHA! YES! That's...."
I would most pleased to know

FIREWALL · 06-17-09, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by She-Wolf

Firewall, I Did mean 2 GB- silly ol me.

I have put the 1.4 patch on SH4 now, and see an improvement in the appearance of the scenery, and the crew - much more lifelike - so that is good, but I have a strange effect appearing on the water according to the angle I am looking at it, and it is also evident in the command room. A banded effect, greys and blacks and lighter stripes, almost like a moire interference fringe, if you know what I mean ( may not have spelled that right). I expect it is me doing something wrong in nHancer or summat, and I am about to try it with the mod that removes grainyness, but if you can put your seasoned fingers on it and can say "AHA! YES! That's...."
I would most pleased to know

Hi She-Wolf

I would try it without useing nHancer first.

Just ingame stuff to get a visual benchmark .

Your rig as has been posted is not the problem.

And it's glad to see you posting. Wondered what happened to you.

OT. Are you keeping busy workwise ?

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 02:42 PM

Firewall - you remember me! (swoons). I got upset, losing doglet an all that, and just stopped playing really. Just played little games like Brickshooter to pass the time in the evening. Plenty to do though, computers keep coming in and life goes on... so here I am, back again

Shall Iput a screenshot up of my banded water, or would that be agin the rules?

FIREWALL · 06-17-09, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by She-Wolf

Firewall - you remember me! (swoons). I got upset, losing doglet an all that, and just stopped playing really. Just played little games like Brickshooter to pass the time in the evening. Plenty to do though, computers keep coming in and life goes on... so here I am, back again

Shall Iput a screenshot up of my banded water, or would that be agin the rules?

No rules broken that I can see. My sorrow for your loss. If I lost my baby " General " I would be lost for awhile.

We'll figure out what the problem is so you can play SH4

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 03:30 PM

nff, what am I doing wrong - I have forgotten how to post a screenshot on here. It asks for a URL, so I pasted the pic to the picasa album website and gave the url, but that didn't work either.

FIREWALL · 06-17-09, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by She-Wolf

nff, what am I doing wrong - I have forgotten how to post a screenshot on here. It asks for a URL, so I pasted the pic to the picasa album website and gave the url, but that didn't work either.

It seemed like it took me forever to figure out ImageShack.

PhotoBucket was a DISASTER !!!

AVGWarhawk · 06-17-09, 03:43 PM

I like photobucket. Works great for me.

She-Wolf · 06-17-09, 03:43 PM

oh well, I can enjoy your funny icons instead..:rotfl::rotfl:. I shall take your advice. I am going to uninstall, reinstall, put the patch on and see if there is a difference then. Maybe I will get me feet wet before bed-time

06-17-09, 10:10 AM	#1
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	patches and mods Hello folks I bought SH4 when it first came out, and after a brief and fairly boring excursion into the big wet, I went back to SH3. Now I am back again, keen to give it another go, and came here looking to see if there were any patches or upgrades I ought to put on to the basic game before I get stuck in. I have nHanced it as best I can and then gone to the download page and there see a number of mods - but which to choose and is there anything I need to put on first? My system is XPSP3, running two Geforce 7600 PCI-E's in SLI mode with the little bridge thingy joining them together, I have 2Mb ddr2 Ram, which is the max, and it is a 3.4 GHz P4 processor. One other thing you may be able to help me with though not strictly related. I also play the X-series space games, and they are very demanding, which is why we got this system in the first place, but I have always had a small problem when in that game, in that when approaching a space-gate, which is when it is most noticeable, every few seconds - ish, there is a slight pause. It isn't jerky the way you get when you just don't have sufficient ram, its as if the processor is taking a breath before it does the next bit. The game is still playable, though I think too much activity on screen might make it worse, but it does spoil it for me. Would it be to do with SLI? The reason I ask is because I loaded the game onto my sons computer just to test it out, and it seemed to go much more smoothly with that - and he has only one card and no SLI.... Anyways, all help, advice and suggestions ( nice ones that is) gratefully received __________________

06-17-09, 10:35 AM	#2
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	For the X series problem and are you talking about X2, X3 spacesims? Then go to the other games thread here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=177 There's a thread up about X3 atm they might be able to help with the gfx issues For mods just head to SH4 Fleetboat mods category http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=219 Grab the Uboat missions addon if you haven't got it. atm im only running one major mod - Trigger Maru 1.7 Others i personally recommend. Found in SH4 Fleetboat mods section Game fixes only mod Fall of the Rising Sun RSRD Pacific enviroment 4 Found in SH4 ATO mods section: Atlantic Campaign for SH4 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140129 Atlantic-Pacific Submarine Warfare Mod by w_clear http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151592 Anyways there's so many good mods out its quite hard to stick to just one. So best to try them all then see what you want to stick with. Good hunting __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

06-17-09, 10:37 AM	#3
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	thank you kiwi __________________

06-17-09, 01:50 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	No, I would say the specs on the machine are very good. It will not be 100 FPS performance but certainly smooth play. As far as mods, if you like the uboats get operations Monsun (OM). There are other mods you can add to OM to enrich the game. If you want to play fleets use RFB or TMO. Both really good mods. TMO is a good balanced mod for the fleets. RFB is shooting for more realism. I recommend RSRD(run silent run deep) for either RFB or TMO. Welcome to the sunny side of life __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

06-17-09, 02:03 PM	#7
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	While I highly recommend Multi- Install. You can put them in jsgme and check them all out separately that way too. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

06-17-09, 01:29 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	You're a little on the low end spec wise, but the game should still be playable. The mods improve the game 200%. TMO vs RFB...matter of choice, both are great, but I wouldn't play without RSRDC...the best mod out there as far as I'm concerned. I don't think the game uses SLI, but maybe someone else knows.

06-17-09, 02:17 PM	#8
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Firewall, I Did mean 2 GB- silly ol me. I have put the 1.4 patch on SH4 now, and see an improvement in the appearance of the scenery, and the crew - much more lifelike - so that is good, but I have a strange effect appearing on the water according to the angle I am looking at it, and it is also evident in the command room. A banded effect, greys and blacks and lighter stripes, almost like a moire interference fringe, if you know what I mean ( may not have spelled that right). I expect it is me doing something wrong in nHancer or summat, and I am about to try it with the mod that removes grainyness, but if you can put your seasoned fingers on it and can say "AHA! YES! That's...." I would most pleased to know __________________

06-17-09, 02:42 PM	#10
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Firewall - you remember me! (swoons). I got upset, losing doglet an all that, and just stopped playing really. Just played little games like Brickshooter to pass the time in the evening. Plenty to do though, computers keep coming in and life goes on... so here I am, back again Shall Iput a screenshot up of my banded water, or would that be agin the rules? __________________

06-17-09, 03:30 PM	#12
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	nff, what am I doing wrong - I have forgotten how to post a screenshot on here. It asks for a URL, so I pasted the pic to the picasa album website and gave the url, but that didn't work either. __________________

06-17-09, 03:43 PM	#14
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I like photobucket. Works great for me. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road