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Old 06-04-09, 09:09 PM   #1
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Default NASA Finally Admits/Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for Past Warming

I wonder how many heads will roll over this? They rely way too much on global warming dollars to say these kinds of things. I believe it was $2 billion of their budget at last count.

http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study+...ticle15310.htm

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Old 06-04-09, 09:15 PM   #2
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If you actually follow the links back in your article to the actual report, you'll see that this headline is not at all true and this "Daily Tech" site has editorialized their own views and twisted what was actually said. Funny.

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"Right now, we are in between major ice ages, in a period that has been called the Holocene,” said Cahalan. “Over recent decades, however, we have moved into a human-dominated climate that some have termed the Anthropocene. The major change in Earth's climate is now really dominated by human activity, which has never happened before."
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If you actually follow the links back in your article to the actual report, you'll see that this headline is not at all true and this "Daily Tech" site has editorialized their own views and twisted what was actually said. Funny.
Not really. You are twisting the facts. They have only reported the facts. Are you disputing the NASA report?

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Old 06-04-09, 10:38 PM   #4
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Not really. You are twisting the facts. They have only reported the facts. Are you disputing the NASA report?

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Yes, I'm disputing the NASA article by quoting directly from it.

Your Daily Tech article states this opinion:

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While the NASA study acknowledged the sun's influence on warming and cooling patterns, it then went badly off the tracks. Ignoring its own evidence, it returned to an argument that man had replaced the sun as the cause current warming patterns. Like many studies, this conclusion was based less on hard data and more on questionable correlations and inaccurate modeling techniques.
Here's a children's guide to telling the difference between facts and opinions. I think you could use it: http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
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Old 06-05-09, 01:58 AM   #5
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HAve to agree with mookie mookie here. Seems like daily tech cherry picked quotes that suited its view.

I read the whole article tracking back trhough the links.

NASA I'm sure would agree with your thread title as this study was all about the sun and its effect on the earth. And yes NASA are saying that in the PRE-INDUSTRIAL AGE the sun was the major heaing influence on the planet.

However now it is not the only heating factor. So the study was nothing to do with proving whether global warming os solar based or man made it was about just how the sun affects the earth.
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I would think its fair to say the solar cycle has been impacting the earth well since there was an earth

I watched some show on TV last night called "Mini Ice Age" about the global cooling phenominon of the 1800's that caused the potatoe famon amongst other things.

I heard something that made me just laugh out loud. Some pseudo scientist or researcher or something says the following "We dont really know if the planet will be warming or if it will be cooling. All I know is we must do something to stop it."

Turns out the mini ice age was caused by the eruption of a volcanoe estimated to be 10 times that of Mt. St. Helen which spewed billions of metric tons of ash and sulfer into the upper stratosphere.

Yea put a stop to that !
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[Part of the NASA report]
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Are you disputing the NASA report?
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Yes, I'm disputing the NASA article by quoting directly from it.
That's great!
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Well, I do not need NASA to inform me of something that I learned in the 7th grade. But it is obvious that good science is just not taught anymore. A Moron like Al Gore can spin and hoax the world. Self evidence will be the proof in the long haul...
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But it is obvious that good science is just not taught anymore.
Explain this. I'm just curious.

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Are women made from sand? Is cheese the latest tool to fight Communism? Has the future already happened somewhere else?

You should investigate these things, man.
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Intrestingly Mars is coming out of its Ice Age... and now the Earth is warming up...
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Intrestingly Mars is coming out of its Ice Age... and now the Earth is warming up...
Well we did send that rover thing there.
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Intrestingly Mars is coming out of its Ice Age... and now the Earth is warming up...
Ah, the cycle is complete, the Martians can now emerge and begin the colonisation of their younger neighbour
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