House passes measure expanding gun rights

Enigma · 05-20-09, 08:56 PM

Quick! Buy ammo and hide your weapons before the evil Dems come and take them away!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/...uns/index.html

GoldenRivet · 05-20-09, 09:17 PM

Why is this a big deal?

we have the right to carry concealed loaded firearms anywhere we want already

CaptainHaplo · 05-21-09, 08:47 AM

GR - no you don't. Federal park lands were exempted, then put into play by a Bush executive order if I recall correctly. That was then terminated by Obama, and now there is a movement on to legislate it (as should have been done the first time).

GoldenRivet · 05-21-09, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

GR - no you don't. Federal park lands were exempted, then put into play by a Bush executive order if I recall correctly. That was then terminated by Obama, and now there is a movement on to legislate it (as should have been done the first time).

I'm using the "Ted Nugent" interpretation of the constitution.

"The second amendment to the constitution is my concealed handgun permit"

05-21-09, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I'm using the "Ted Nugent" interpretation of the constitution.

"The second amendment to the constitution is my concealed handgun permit"

x2 - I live by it, my handgun is always in my car and i don't hold a ccw permit.

Platapus · 05-21-09, 05:21 PM

Hopefully this will kill the crap about Democrats not being Pro-gun. There are many Democrats who are pro-gun, just like there are many Republicans who are anti-gun.

It all depends on the individual not the political party.

August · 05-21-09, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Hopefully this will kill the crap about Democrats not being Pro-gun. There are many Democrats who are pro-gun, just like there are many Republicans who are anti-gun.

It all depends on the individual not the political party.

I believe that this is the direction at present and i'm glad to see it. However one bill does not negate 40 years of Democrat promoted and supported anti-gun efforts. The Dems have taken a first step in the right direction. We'll have to see if the trend continues.

nikimcbee · 05-21-09, 07:19 PM

...so what does the fine print say in the bill? I trust no-one in DC now. This congress is all about passing stuff w/o reading anything.

Enigma · 05-21-09, 08:17 PM

"anti-gun" is as silly as "pro-war" or "pro-abortion". I'm for the freedom of women to choose if they want to have an abortion. I'm not a supporter of actual abortions. I see them as a sad, terrible occurrence. I also think WWII was justified, but I'm not a fan of war. As a liberal, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there are gun control measures that should be taken to decrease gun related violence and homicide, and accidental death. I don't think it's at all out of line to review an amendment that came into effect in 179 frikkin 1. In fact I think it's incredibly reasonable given the changes in availability, technology and functionality in firearms. If this makes me "anti-gun", whatever. What are you, "pro-gun related violence"?

GoldenRivet · 05-21-09, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

...so what does the fine print say in the bill? I trust no-one in DC now. This congress is all about passing stuff w/o reading anything.

there is a speed reader that knows

SUBMAN1 · 05-21-09, 09:31 PM

Nooooooo! Is it Aprile 1st? Can't be!

About time they start coming to their senses. Somehow I feel this is some form a diversion, or an attempt to keep their jobs. Time will tell.

-S

Enigma · 05-21-09, 11:22 PM

Diversion? Do tell, my conspiratorial little friend.

August · 05-22-09, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

As a liberal, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there are gun control measures that should be taken to decrease gun related violence and homicide, and accidental death. I don't think it's at all out of line to review an amendment that came into effect in 179 frikkin 1. In fact I think it's incredibly reasonable given the changes in availability, technology and functionality in firearms. If this makes me "anti-gun", whatever. What are you, "pro-gun related violence"?

You are in favor of further gun control measures. Check
You don't think much of the 2nd Amendment. Check

In the absence of any actual pro-gun opinion you may have, I think it's certainly reasonable to assume that you are indeed "anti-gun".

Enigma · 05-22-09, 08:02 AM

Again, are you "pro-gun related violence"?

SUBMAN1 · 05-22-09, 09:09 AM

Are you implying something?

05-20-09, 08:56 PM	#1
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	House passes measure expanding gun rights Quick! Buy ammo and hide your weapons before the evil Dems come and take them away! http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/...uns/index.html __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

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CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	GR - no you don't. Federal park lands were exempted, then put into play by a Bush executive order if I recall correctly. That was then terminated by Obama, and now there is a movement on to legislate it (as should have been done the first time). __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

05-21-09, 05:21 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Hopefully this will kill the crap about Democrats not being Pro-gun. There are many Democrats who are pro-gun, just like there are many Republicans who are anti-gun. It all depends on the individual not the political party. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-21-09, 07:19 PM	#8
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	...so what does the fine print say in the bill? I trust no-one in DC now. This congress is all about passing stuff w/o reading anything. __________________

05-21-09, 08:17 PM	#9
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	"anti-gun" is as silly as "pro-war" or "pro-abortion". I'm for the freedom of women to choose if they want to have an abortion. I'm not a supporter of actual abortions. I see them as a sad, terrible occurrence. I also think WWII was justified, but I'm not a fan of war. As a liberal, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there are gun control measures that should be taken to decrease gun related violence and homicide, and accidental death. I don't think it's at all out of line to review an amendment that came into effect in 179 frikkin 1. In fact I think it's incredibly reasonable given the changes in availability, technology and functionality in firearms. If this makes me "anti-gun", whatever. What are you, "pro-gun related violence"? __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain Last edited by Enigma; 05-21-09 at 11:22 PM.

05-21-09, 09:31 PM	#11
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nooooooo! Is it Aprile 1st? Can't be! About time they start coming to their senses. Somehow I feel this is some form a diversion, or an attempt to keep their jobs. Time will tell. -S __________________

05-21-09, 11:22 PM	#12
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Diversion? Do tell, my conspiratorial little friend. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

05-22-09, 08:02 AM	#14
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Again, are you "pro-gun related violence"? __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

05-22-09, 09:09 AM	#15
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Are you implying something? __________________