A Couple Of Issues

Folducker · 04-13-09, 01:39 PM

I guess it's possible to be spotted from the air, bombed and sunk even thou you are at periscope depth? I sunk 37,000 tons using all torpedoes and was waiting for the destination indicator on the map to turn gray so I could go home. Cruising around during daylight hours, at periscope depth on high time compression, lots of planes coming and going, next thing I know I am sunk???

When you hit a ship with two or three torp’s and it goes dead in the water but doesn't sink. Do you have to hang around and either put another fish in it or surface and take it out with the deck gun to get credit?

What means it when you give an order, and you get an "unable to comply?" message. I had a convoy all lined up and nothing. Looked like the crew was taking a nap.

I read somewhere that there is an indicator that tells you how much noise your boat is making but I can't seem to find it. Is it a mod?

So far I am really enjoying playing, want to get through my first career before I start adding realism or mods.
Thanks

AVGWarhawk · 04-13-09, 02:11 PM

Yes, planes can bomb you while at PS depth. Possible you hit a mine also.

'Can not comply' usually means you left your men at battlestation to long and they do go to sleep.

I hang around until the ship is sunk. I believe you have to be in visual distance to get credit.

No noise indicator in SH4.

Munchausen · 04-13-09, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes, planes can bomb you while at PS depth.

Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.

Folducker · 04-13-09, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchausen

Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.

I was in deep water, but the scope was up.

I now have a huge passenger ship that I am shadowing. The only thing I can do is shell it from the surface. Used up all but 9 rounds of HE, switching to AP. Multiple hits, I slowed it down and some smoke but I don't think I will sink it before running out of 4.5" ammo. (Used up a bunch earlier on a large transport). I don't want to get too close, had a nasty surprise on the previous patrol. I had to drive to avoid aircraft but it's getting dark so THAT shouldn't be a problem. I guess ramming it isn't an option?

04-13-09, 05:54 PM

make sure your shooting at or below waterline or shells do no good so long range shelling is not a good idea if you can help it.

if ship is disabled pull right up to the bow so your in line with its bow and then surface so deck guns cant reach you and you can finish it in safety

but submerge as it starts flooding or guns will be able to get to you as it sinks.

Folducker · 04-13-09, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

make sure your shooting at or below waterline or shells do no good so long range shelling is not a good idea if you can help it.

if ship is disabled pull right up to the bow so your in line with its bow and then surface so deck guns cant reach you and you can finish it in safety

but submerge as it starts flooding or guns will be able to get to you as it sinks.

I never thought of that one. Great idea.
I can't help but to comment on your Sig. A guy who I tolerated when he was a kid did me a favor when he grew up that today is worth about 350K.

04-13-09, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Folducker

I never thought of that one. Great idea.
I can't help but to comment on your Sig. A guy who I tolerated when he was a kid did me a favor when he grew up that today is worth about 350K.

it only works at the bow because its real high so at the stern then can always get you.

one drawback to this tactic of getting close is ships can explode and kill you with the concushion so tankers i wouldnt use he rounds on and use discretion if its burning it may explode so you have to judge each situation if its safe to get close

MonTana_Prussian · 04-13-09, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchausen

Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.

They can get you with the scope down too. When I pick up an aicraft on the SD radar,I go to 80 feet,and have never been attacked by an aircaft at that depth.

Akula4745 · 04-13-09, 08:52 PM

Montana and I think alike! Too many times I have seen from the free camera that at periscope depth the sub is showing in between waves (especially in rough seas). 80 feet is my normal on evading aircraft detection... what with all my long term experience with the game. LOL (sorry... couldn't resist)

MonTana_Prussian · 04-13-09, 11:02 PM

It took me some time to figure out the right depth to avoid air attack. Not too shallow,not too deep...

Peto · 04-13-09, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Montana and I think alike! Too many times I have seen from the free camera that at periscope depth the sub is showing in between waves (especially in rough seas). 80 feet is my normal on evading aircraft detection... what with all my long term experience with the game. LOL (sorry... couldn't resist)

You strike me as a fast learner

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Armistead · 04-14-09, 03:14 AM

Wait until you load a mod and have evil planes pop you at 150 ft or more. TMO mod has some mean planes. I once got damaged at 200 ft.

Web is right, aim below the water line..I prefer near the stacks, but then spread some out for wider damage radius.

Rockin Robbins · 04-14-09, 05:13 AM

Welcome to Subsim, Folducker! Sounds like you're doing things just right and all your questions are answered. When you're ready to REALLY jump in the water over your head and try manual targeting you are invited to the Submarine Skippers' Bag of Tricks thread where a motely crew of instructors await your pleasure.

MonTana_Prussian · 04-14-09, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Wait until you load a mod and have evil planes pop you at 150 ft or more. TMO mod has some mean planes. I once got damaged at 200 ft.

Web is right, aim below the water line..I prefer near the stacks, but then spread some out for wider damage radius.

Maybe TMO is different,but I run RFB,and have never been attacked below 75 feet. Maybe I'm just lucky,but there ya go

04-14-09, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MonTana_Prussian

Maybe TMO is different,but I run RFB,and have never been attacked below 75 feet. Maybe I'm just lucky,but there ya go

yep, in TMO all planes are elite and rarely miss you.

they can sometimes see you at 150ft just like if you were on surface if water conditions are right. Ducimus has some evil badass airplanes lol.

04-13-09, 01:39 PM	#1
Folducker Mate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 53 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	A Couple Of Issues I guess it's possible to be spotted from the air, bombed and sunk even thou you are at periscope depth? I sunk 37,000 tons using all torpedoes and was waiting for the destination indicator on the map to turn gray so I could go home. Cruising around during daylight hours, at periscope depth on high time compression, lots of planes coming and going, next thing I know I am sunk??? When you hit a ship with two or three torp’s and it goes dead in the water but doesn't sink. Do you have to hang around and either put another fish in it or surface and take it out with the deck gun to get credit? What means it when you give an order, and you get an "unable to comply?" message. I had a convoy all lined up and nothing. Looked like the crew was taking a nap. I read somewhere that there is an indicator that tells you how much noise your boat is making but I can't seem to find it. Is it a mod? So far I am really enjoying playing, want to get through my first career before I start adding realism or mods. Thanks

04-13-09, 02:11 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yes, planes can bomb you while at PS depth. Possible you hit a mine also. 'Can not comply' usually means you left your men at battlestation to long and they do go to sleep. I hang around until the ship is sunk. I believe you have to be in visual distance to get credit. No noise indicator in SH4. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-13-09, 08:52 PM	#9
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	Montana and I think alike! Too many times I have seen from the free camera that at periscope depth the sub is showing in between waves (especially in rough seas). 80 feet is my normal on evading aircraft detection... what with all my long term experience with the game. LOL (sorry... couldn't resist) __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-14-09, 05:13 AM	#13
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Welcome to Subsim, Folducker! Sounds like you're doing things just right and all your questions are answered. When you're ready to REALLY jump in the water over your head and try manual targeting you are invited to the Submarine Skippers' Bag of Tricks thread where a motely crew of instructors await your pleasure. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

04-13-09, 05:54 PM	#5
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	make sure your shooting at or below waterline or shells do no good so long range shelling is not a good idea if you can help it. if ship is disabled pull right up to the bow so your in line with its bow and then surface so deck guns cant reach you and you can finish it in safety but submerge as it starts flooding or guns will be able to get to you as it sinks.

04-13-09, 11:02 PM	#10
MonTana_Prussian Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Helena,Montana Posts: 234 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It took me some time to figure out the right depth to avoid air attack. Not too shallow,not too deep...

04-14-09, 03:14 AM	#12
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Wait until you load a mod and have evil planes pop you at 150 ft or more. TMO mod has some mean planes. I once got damaged at 200 ft. Web is right, aim below the water line..I prefer near the stacks, but then spread some out for wider damage radius.