Setting a custom camera view to a key?

jmr · 04-08-09, 08:14 PM

Is there anyway to set a custom view point using the free roaming camera inside the boat and then save it to a key combo? I would like to set a of the SJ radar screen so that the camera is nice and close so I can accurately plot contacts. The default radar viewpoint is too far for my tastes and I would like it to look something like this:

Which makes it much easier to plot contacts with mobo like this:

Munchausen · 04-10-09, 04:09 PM

Thanks for the above screen shot. After all this time, I've finally seen why it helps to run SH4 in 'window' mode.

Nisgeis · 04-11-09, 11:06 AM

Hi JMR, I saw your question in the other thread and thought I'd answer here.

You might find it easier to just change the default position for the PPI and A-Scope camera points, then you can use all the usual keys.

You'll need to get a copy of the very useful S3D and then in /data/interior/type_CT.dat find the node that is called RAD_Dummy_AScope - That's the PPI camera position and RAD_Dummy_PPI - that's the A-Scope camera position (don't ask :-). Move the camera position you want down by adjusting the Y Traslation value.

jmr · 04-11-09, 02:29 PM

Thanks for reply, Nisgeis. Can you tell me where I can download S3D? Is it a program designed specifically to mod SH4/SH3? I searched for "S3D" here at Subsim's download library but nothing turned up.

peabody · 04-11-09, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmr

Thanks for reply, Nisgeis. Can you tell me where I can download S3D? Is it a program designed specifically to mod SH4/SH3? I searched for "S3D" here at Subsim's download library but nothing turned up.

The subsim search does not search for 3 letter words. S3D is a 'sticky' at the top of this page.

Peabody

jmr · 04-11-09, 02:44 PM

*doh!*

Thanks for that. Funny how things can be right in front of you but yet you don't notice them.

Got it installed and I'm looking at the Y values but not sure what values to plug in to try. I'll star somewhere near the default ones and go from there.

XLjedi · 04-11-09, 03:56 PM

JMR,

I haven't been able to get SH4 to run in windowed mode.

How did you do it?

I go into options and under graphics I have windowed mode selected, but even after multiple restarts it still loads and plays full screen.

Is there a keystroke to get from maximized to windowed?

jmr · 04-11-09, 07:03 PM

aaron, have you tried setting a resolution that's less than your current desktop resolution? If I set it to run windowed at the same resolution as my desktop it appears to run in full screen. Once I set the resolution to something lower it ran in windowed mode just fine.

XLjedi · 04-11-09, 07:30 PM

Yeah, I s'pose that would make sense.

04-11-09, 08:35 PM

when you find a good setting that works best, please post the numbers you used so that others can be able to use them too

jmr · 04-11-09, 08:44 PM

Still experimenting with numbers

I'm no programmer nor modder but why do the X, Y, and Z axes have so many decimal places for their numerical values?

I've noticed with the 3D view it's best to have the camera set directly above the scope with no discernible angle so that you'll have uniform distance from the center to the outer edges of the scope when setting your range scale with mobo.

Nisgeis · 04-12-09, 03:21 AM

The game units are very large - if you change the x by 1, then that's 10 metres in game, so to move it a centimetre, you'd have to change it by 0.01. The rest of the numbers are probably only there for completeness, they just show the full length of the number, but you can set it to something round if you want.

You can adjust the angle of the camera view with the rotation controls, just unders the translation controls. If you get stuck, I'll give you a hand.

Perhaps you could release this as a mod for those who use the excellent Mobo to plot with.

jmr · 04-12-09, 05:14 PM

Nisgeis, is it possible to completely lock the camera so that it only stares directly down at the scope and prevents the mouse from moving the camera?

XLjedi · 04-17-09, 08:01 PM

Any progress on the XYZ settings?

Ya know, it never really occured to me to use MoBo to plot directly on the PPI scope like that in real time. That's pretty cool... I might have to actually try a fleetboat career now.

Nisgeis · 04-17-09, 08:47 PM

Sorry JMR, I didn't see this post, I've been a bit busy. Thanks to Aaronblood for bumping it. I'm always happy to support Mobo (bring on version two :-)).

It's perfectly reasonable to lock off the camera for the PPI scope to a fixed view. All you need to do is to open up /data/library/cameras.dat with S3D and goto the node called _Dummy_Cam_RadioRoom_Radar_AScope.

I know the A scope is a different view, but for whatever reason, the PPI and A scope views are reversed in SH4, such that the A scope view is of the PPI and the PPI view is of the A Scope. From that node, delete the FreeMove controller and depending on what camera file you are starting with, you may have a MechShocks Pendulum conroller, which makes the view swing. Remove that and the view should be as steady as a rock and perfect for using with the excellent MOBO.

If you have managed to change the view node from the previous discussion for a 'zoomed in' view, then you should be in tip top shape for top MOBO usage. You should definately release this as a mod!

If you have problems then please send me a PM, then it will flag up in my email and I won't miss it. You should be OK though now for the next killer mod. But if you have trouble, PM me :-).

04-08-09, 08:14 PM	#1
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Setting a custom camera view to a key? Is there anyway to set a custom view point using the free roaming camera inside the boat and then save it to a key combo? I would like to set a of the SJ radar screen so that the camera is nice and close so I can accurately plot contacts. The default radar viewpoint is too far for my tastes and I would like it to look something like this: Which makes it much easier to plot contacts with mobo like this:

04-11-09, 11:06 AM	#3
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Hi JMR, I saw your question in the other thread and thought I'd answer here. You might find it easier to just change the default position for the PPI and A-Scope camera points, then you can use all the usual keys. You'll need to get a copy of the very useful S3D and then in /data/interior/type_CT.dat find the node that is called RAD_Dummy_AScope - That's the PPI camera position and RAD_Dummy_PPI - that's the A-Scope camera position (don't ask :-). Move the camera position you want down by adjusting the Y Traslation value. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

04-11-09, 03:56 PM	#7
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	JMR, I haven't been able to get SH4 to run in windowed mode. How did you do it? I go into options and under graphics I have windowed mode selected, but even after multiple restarts it still loads and plays full screen. Is there a keystroke to get from maximized to windowed? __________________

04-11-09, 07:30 PM	#9
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Yeah, I s'pose that would make sense. __________________

04-12-09, 03:21 AM	#12
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	The game units are very large - if you change the x by 1, then that's 10 metres in game, so to move it a centimetre, you'd have to change it by 0.01. The rest of the numbers are probably only there for completeness, they just show the full length of the number, but you can set it to something round if you want. You can adjust the angle of the camera view with the rotation controls, just unders the translation controls. If you get stuck, I'll give you a hand. Perhaps you could release this as a mod for those who use the excellent Mobo to plot with. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

04-10-09, 04:09 PM	#2
Munchausen Commodore Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 608 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 1	Thanks for the above screen shot. After all this time, I've finally seen why it helps to run SH4 in 'window' mode.

04-11-09, 02:29 PM	#4
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Thanks for reply, Nisgeis. Can you tell me where I can download S3D? Is it a program designed specifically to mod SH4/SH3? I searched for "S3D" here at Subsim's download library but nothing turned up.

04-11-09, 02:44 PM	#6
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	doh! Thanks for that. Funny how things can be right in front of you but yet you don't notice them. Got it installed and I'm looking at the Y values but not sure what values to plug in to try. I'll star somewhere near the default ones and go from there.

04-11-09, 07:03 PM	#8
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	aaron, have you tried setting a resolution that's less than your current desktop resolution? If I set it to run windowed at the same resolution as my desktop it appears to run in full screen. Once I set the resolution to something lower it ran in windowed mode just fine.

04-11-09, 08:35 PM	#10
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	when you find a good setting that works best, please post the numbers you used so that others can be able to use them too

04-11-09, 08:44 PM	#11
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Still experimenting with numbers I'm no programmer nor modder but why do the X, Y, and Z axes have so many decimal places for their numerical values? I've noticed with the 3D view it's best to have the camera set directly above the scope with no discernible angle so that you'll have uniform distance from the center to the outer edges of the scope when setting your range scale with mobo.

04-12-09, 05:14 PM	#13
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Nisgeis, is it possible to completely lock the camera so that it only stares directly down at the scope and prevents the mouse from moving the camera?

04-17-09, 08:01 PM	#14
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Any progress on the XYZ settings? Ya know, it never really occured to me to use MoBo to plot directly on the PPI scope like that in real time. That's pretty cool... I might have to actually try a fleetboat career now. __________________

04-17-09, 08:47 PM	#15
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Sorry JMR, I didn't see this post, I've been a bit busy. Thanks to Aaronblood for bumping it. I'm always happy to support Mobo (bring on version two :-)). It's perfectly reasonable to lock off the camera for the PPI scope to a fixed view. All you need to do is to open up /data/library/cameras.dat with S3D and goto the node called _Dummy_Cam_RadioRoom_Radar_AScope. I know the A scope is a different view, but for whatever reason, the PPI and A scope views are reversed in SH4, such that the A scope view is of the PPI and the PPI view is of the A Scope. From that node, delete the FreeMove controller and depending on what camera file you are starting with, you may have a MechShocks Pendulum conroller, which makes the view swing. Remove that and the view should be as steady as a rock and perfect for using with the excellent MOBO. If you have managed to change the view node from the previous discussion for a 'zoomed in' view, then you should be in tip top shape for top MOBO usage. You should definately release this as a mod! If you have problems then please send me a PM, then it will flag up in my email and I won't miss it. You should be OK though now for the next killer mod. But if you have trouble, PM me :-). __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.