School shooting in Germany leaves 16 dead

Skybird · 03-11-09, 06:33 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...612612,00.html

The season is opened.

Just some time earlier: shooting spree in Alabama:

http://www.welt.de/english-news/arti...ing-spree.html

HunterICX · 03-11-09, 06:37 AM

Red it this morning, just horrible
I hope they catch him alive.

HunterICX

03-11-09, 06:58 AM

Nope, committed suicide. I'd be interested to hear what type of solutions the German media has in relation to stopping incidents like this from happening again. I can sort of read news in German but I'm still learning and my speed of reading is pretty slow.

Edit. Correction, they are still looking for him. Some conflicting info in the media about the situation.

Fincuan · 03-11-09, 07:11 AM

Bild now says the Police shot him.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2009/03...winnenden.html

Schroeder · 03-11-09, 07:16 AM

@Fin
Forget Bild! it's yellow press on lowest level.

I always love it when 17 year olds have access to the weapons and amunitions of their parents.

03-11-09, 08:17 AM

At least 16 dead. Nice going, weapon fetishists.

Larry U-136 · 03-11-09, 08:32 AM

Unbeliveable this stuff has to stop

Happy Times · 03-11-09, 08:36 AM

Well it wont stop by taking away legal guns, these are mental issues, these people have used knives, spears, flamethrovers and bombs also.
I could kill ten in a mall with fork if i wanted to.

Enigma · 03-11-09, 08:55 AM

AVGWarhawk · 03-11-09, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

At least 16 dead. Nice going, weapon fetishists.

How does a fetish have anything to do with this

Schroeder · 03-11-09, 09:12 AM

@HT
Actually massacres like this have always been carried out with firearms in Germany (at least I don't recall any massacre with more than a dozen fatals that was carried out with knives). Usually parents made their weapons accessable to their kids or the kids found out were the keys were. Without those weapons such deeds can't be done.

Thomen · 03-11-09, 09:16 AM

Damn, that totally sucks. Why allways schools..

Wonder how he got his hands on the weapons in the first place.

As morbid as it is, I wonder on whom or what they (especially the media) try to pin it this time. As far as I remember, last time they tried to blame video games and stuff.

Thomen · 03-11-09, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

@HT
Actually massacres like this have always been carried out with firearms in Germany (at least I don't recall any massacre with more than a dozen fatals that was carried out with knives). Usually parents made their weapons accessable to their kids or the kids found out were the keys were. Without those weapons such deeds can't be done.

True, but then the parents are at least partially at fault for making the weapons accessible in one way or another.

03-11-09, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomen

Damn, that totally sucks. Why allways schools..

Wonder how he got his hands on the weapons in the first place.

As morbid as it is, I wonder on whom or what they (especially the media) try to pin it this time. As far as I remember, last time they tried to blame video games and stuff.

Some say that the media should be quiet about these things, media coverage in a way glorifies these things. Not sure if that's true. I think the media together with the schools could act to prevent these things. Unfortunately it would probably take money and not everyone is willing to put more money into making schools better. Some politicians even have connections to weapon companies, I doubt they will see guns as a part of the problem.

Schroeder · 03-11-09, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomen

True, but then the parents are at least partially at fault for making the weapons accessible in one way or another.

How do you make weapons inaccessable for 17 year olds? If you store them in your house they will sooner or later find out how to get them.

It would take a safe in a bank that can only be opened with a personal key and a member of the bank`s staff together to really deny access to others.

03-11-09, 06:33 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	School shooting in Germany leaves 16 dead http://www.spiegel.de/international/...612612,00.html The season is opened. Just some time earlier: shooting spree in Alabama: http://www.welt.de/english-news/arti...ing-spree.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-11-09, 06:37 AM	#2
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Red it this morning, just horrible I hope they catch him alive. HunterICX __________________

03-11-09, 07:16 AM	#5
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@Fin Forget Bild! it's yellow press on lowest level. I always love it when 17 year olds have access to the weapons and amunitions of their parents. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

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Larry U-136 Gunner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Haddam, Connecticut Posts: 98 Downloads: 438 Uploads: 0	Unbeliveable this stuff has to stop __________________

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Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well it wont stop by taking away legal guns, these are mental issues, these people have used knives, spears, flamethrovers and bombs also. I could kill ten in a mall with fork if i wanted to. __________________

03-11-09, 06:58 AM	#3
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nope, committed suicide. I'd be interested to hear what type of solutions the German media has in relation to stopping incidents like this from happening again. I can sort of read news in German but I'm still learning and my speed of reading is pretty slow. Edit. Correction, they are still looking for him. Some conflicting info in the media about the situation.

03-11-09, 07:11 AM	#4
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Bild now says the Police shot him. http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2009/03...winnenden.html

03-11-09, 08:17 AM	#6
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	At least 16 dead. Nice going, weapon fetishists.

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Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	__________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

03-11-09, 09:12 AM	#11
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@HT Actually massacres like this have always been carried out with firearms in Germany (at least I don't recall any massacre with more than a dozen fatals that was carried out with knives). Usually parents made their weapons accessable to their kids or the kids found out were the keys were. Without those weapons such deeds can't be done. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

03-11-09, 09:16 AM	#12
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Damn, that totally sucks. Why allways schools.. Wonder how he got his hands on the weapons in the first place. As morbid as it is, I wonder on whom or what they (especially the media) try to pin it this time. As far as I remember, last time they tried to blame video games and stuff.