I'm Back! - Do Planes indicate carrier groups?

Schlageter-JG26 · 03-09-09, 09:40 AM

Just getting back to this wonderful program.

I'll be catching up on mods since I started playing with fatigue, boat speed and guns way back when. Hope to find some cool stuff out there by now!

Btw - Sorry to read of my Connecticut neighbor passing away last year.

But here's a question - it is March 27th, 1942 in my new campaign. I have just begun my 3rd sortie and have sailed out so I am just SW of Midway by a few hundred miles. Contact inbound reported... very fast... aircraft... ENEMY!!!!

Does the game have random flights that far out from the Japanese mainland, or does it populate flights within a radius of a carrier fleet?

Do I have a carrier fleet somewhere within reach and a full complement of torpedoes?

Also - does the game put fleets in approximate locations based on historical data?

Or should I watch where the plane goes when it leaves and follow that angle??

tater · 03-09-09, 10:40 AM

If it's stock, in that location it's a bug where the Midway attack forces (early june) generate their airgroups even without the CVs being there.

Schlageter-JG26 · 03-09-09, 03:42 PM

Bummer. I was playing it late last night when the plane came across... I think my butt tightened when I thought there might be a battle fleet about to roll over me.

Morpheus · 03-09-09, 04:04 PM

Hi

i got alerted on a carrier task force through excessive air traffic in my area, coming off the same location (java seas). i marked the positions and directions, and found out the general course of the fleet. i made a run around attack and sunk 4 carriers, can not rembember the types ... was a lot of fun, and keept me in excitement over the night

kr morph

Red Lord of Chaos · 03-09-09, 05:10 PM

There seem to be 2 airgroups moving west from Midway, one fast, one slow, it was tempting to track in on the slower one but I couldn't get anything on Sonar.
Playing as a U-Boat there seems to be a similar carrier airgroup on the south east side of grid KM.

Frame57 · 03-09-09, 09:50 PM

I get sent to the Celebes sea a lot for some reason and I decided to head in the direction the aircraft were coming from and sure enough I found some Japanese Carriers. Does not always pan out for me though.

tater · 03-09-09, 10:02 PM

The planes are indeed related to CV airgroups. The problem lies in "scripted" groups in the campaign. "Scripted" (as opposed to "random") groups in SH4 spawn their airgroups from the moment the campaign loads their .mis file (as requested by Campaign.cfg).

Some will be "real" others will not.

It's sort of silly since the airstrike paradigm has all those planes flying around all the time, which would never have happened in RL. 99% of the time there should be no planes.

Frame57 · 03-10-09, 11:31 AM

I agree they do spawn at a ridiculous rate. especially if you play the german boats in the expansion edition. I can set my watch by those aircraft....But I have fun shooting them down. My german crew sucks at it so i usually man a gun myself to get er done. But my american crew generally nails the Betty's everytime but not so much with the bombers or torpedo planes.

03-09-09, 09:40 AM	#1
Schlageter-JG26 Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 107 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I'm Back! - Do Planes indicate carrier groups? Just getting back to this wonderful program. I'll be catching up on mods since I started playing with fatigue, boat speed and guns way back when. Hope to find some cool stuff out there by now! Btw - Sorry to read of my Connecticut neighbor passing away last year. But here's a question - it is March 27th, 1942 in my new campaign. I have just begun my 3rd sortie and have sailed out so I am just SW of Midway by a few hundred miles. Contact inbound reported... very fast... aircraft... ENEMY!!!! Does the game have random flights that far out from the Japanese mainland, or does it populate flights within a radius of a carrier fleet? Do I have a carrier fleet somewhere within reach and a full complement of torpedoes? Also - does the game put fleets in approximate locations based on historical data? Or should I watch where the plane goes when it leaves and follow that angle??

03-09-09, 04:04 PM	#4
Morpheus Ensign Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 234 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hi i got alerted on a carrier task force through excessive air traffic in my area, coming off the same location (java seas). i marked the positions and directions, and found out the general course of the fleet. i made a run around attack and sunk 4 carriers, can not rembember the types ... was a lot of fun, and keept me in excitement over the night kr morph Last edited by Morpheus; 03-09-09 at 04:16 PM.

03-09-09, 05:10 PM	#5
Red Lord of Chaos Watch Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 25 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	There seem to be 2 airgroups moving west from Midway, one fast, one slow, it was tempting to track in on the slower one but I couldn't get anything on Sonar. Playing as a U-Boat there seems to be a similar carrier airgroup on the south east side of grid KM. __________________ \'Ere\'s ta swimmin\' wit\' bow legged women!

03-09-09, 09:50 PM	#6
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I get sent to the Celebes sea a lot for some reason and I decided to head in the direction the aircraft were coming from and sure enough I found some Japanese Carriers. Does not always pan out for me though. __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

03-10-09, 11:31 AM	#8
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I agree they do spawn at a ridiculous rate. especially if you play the german boats in the expansion edition. I can set my watch by those aircraft....But I have fun shooting them down. My german crew sucks at it so i usually man a gun myself to get er done. But my american crew generally nails the Betty's everytime but not so much with the bombers or torpedo planes. __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

03-09-09, 10:40 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	If it's stock, in that location it's a bug where the Midway attack forces (early june) generate their airgroups even without the CVs being there.

03-09-09, 03:42 PM	#3
Schlageter-JG26 Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 107 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Bummer. I was playing it late last night when the plane came across... I think my butt tightened when I thought there might be a battle fleet about to roll over me.

03-09-09, 10:02 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The planes are indeed related to CV airgroups. The problem lies in "scripted" groups in the campaign. "Scripted" (as opposed to "random") groups in SH4 spawn their airgroups from the moment the campaign loads their .mis file (as requested by Campaign.cfg). Some will be "real" others will not. It's sort of silly since the airstrike paradigm has all those planes flying around all the time, which would never have happened in RL. 99% of the time there should be no planes.