[rare find] IJN Kaiten type 10 periscope view

keltos01 · 03-09-09, 06:30 AM

YATTA !!!!

This is such a great find I had to make a new thread...

found the real deal !!!

IJN Kaiten type 10 periscope view :

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7077

Major Walter Schmidt : shot with Canon IXY DIGITAL 900 IS at 2009-03-09

Kaiten Typ. 10 (prototype)
note the small size-must have been hell in there not to mention the fact that you were facing certian death.....
the latter 2 fotos show the periscope of the kaiten and what it looks like to look inside.

Rubenandthejets : get me more and better pictures of this one please !!!!
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7077

google is hard to use sometimes

had to look up periscope view Kure to find it !!!! took me 2 darn weeks of looking on the web...

more on the Kure museum :

http://www.pbase.com/takeda/japan_sub

keltos

pythos · 03-09-09, 12:27 PM

Quite a lousy view of the world on the last mission of your life, even if you miss, you are still dead. The fate of Kaiten pilots that failed to hit was not death by explosion, but instead death by implosion, or worse, crushed inside the "hull" of the kaiten, as the thing sank into the depths.

Pretty disgusting that a government could drive its kids to do such really.

vanjast · 03-09-09, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pythos

Pretty disgusting that a government could drive its kids to do such really.

Not so disgusting as you might think.. even in the western world there are those, with the 'right propaganda' willing to die for a cause they have no clue about.

Those then (and these today) were willing volunteers, according to their commanders.

Sad I agree, but in desperate times, people do really strange things.

thyro · 03-09-09, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pythos

Pretty disgusting that a government could drive its kids to do such really.

That is called nation survival while facing the odds defending their empire as last resort when the enemy has unlimited resources and technology...

They attacked Perl Harbour to give some advance in hope with a quick territory conquest on Pacific would give them enough resources to face/balance US in equal terms. But that back fired... Japan lack on resources even with new empire territories expansion at time (because had to transport); while US as a country had almost everything that needed to sustain production and replace while fighting two fronts... "lucky" far from two fronts as well.

resources was one of the factors... US had it concentrated... Japan had it disperced so needed to be transported from its vast territory expansion... (who builds fast deploys/replaces fast win's war)

For a little country without resources Japan made hell on Earth and also suffered the most on WWII.

But above all was the mentality a major player where even in our days; honour and respect still is something highly regarded and not seen on any other nation (but losing it gradually).

rubenandthejets · 03-09-09, 07:16 PM

They were expecting total annihilation of their cities; rape, torture, castration. Inflicting so much damage that the Allies would shift from their "unconditional surrender" stance and a mediated peace through the Russians were their last hopes.

I mentioned before the 14 year old girls being trained with naginata (a spear). They were going to hurl themselves at the invasion beaches in wave attacks-better that than rape and mutilation, which was what they were indoctrinated to expect.

From the start of the war, mothers told their sons "Don't let me be the only mother on the street without a son in Yasakuni"-the shrine for war dead in Tokyo. Servicemen had the mindset that they were already dead, so signing up for Tokko operations in this atmosphere doesn't seem so strange.

If you thought your death could save your family, what would you do?

keltos01 · 03-11-09, 05:12 AM

right so you guys hijacked this thread because there was the "Kaiten" word in it...

this should interrest you :

Japanese war crimes so bad?
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6895

keltos

AVGWarhawk · 03-11-09, 07:43 AM

Come on fellas, get back on Keltos topic please.

03-09-09, 06:30 AM	#1
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	[rare find] IJN Kaiten type 10 periscope view YATTA !!!! This is such a great find I had to make a new thread... found the real deal !!! IJN Kaiten type 10 periscope view : http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7077 Major Walter Schmidt : shot with Canon IXY DIGITAL 900 IS at 2009-03-09 Kaiten Typ. 10 (prototype) note the small size-must have been hell in there not to mention the fact that you were facing certian death..... the latter 2 fotos show the periscope of the kaiten and what it looks like to look inside. Rubenandthejets : get me more and better pictures of this one please !!!! http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7077 google is hard to use sometimes had to look up periscope view Kure to find it !!!! took me 2 darn weeks of looking on the web... more on the Kure museum : http://www.pbase.com/takeda/japan_sub keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 03-09-09 at 06:49 AM.

03-09-09, 07:16 PM	#5
rubenandthejets 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 279 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	They were expecting total annihilation of their cities; rape, torture, castration. Inflicting so much damage that the Allies would shift from their "unconditional surrender" stance and a mediated peace through the Russians were their last hopes. I mentioned before the 14 year old girls being trained with naginata (a spear). They were going to hurl themselves at the invasion beaches in wave attacks-better that than rape and mutilation, which was what they were indoctrinated to expect. From the start of the war, mothers told their sons "Don't let me be the only mother on the street without a son in Yasakuni"-the shrine for war dead in Tokyo. Servicemen had the mindset that they were already dead, so signing up for Tokko operations in this atmosphere doesn't seem so strange. If you thought your death could save your family, what would you do? __________________ HMAS Sydney III "Thorough and Ready"

03-11-09, 05:12 AM	#6
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	right so you guys hijacked this thread because there was the "Kaiten" word in it... this should interrest you : Japanese war crimes so bad? http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6895 keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

03-11-09, 07:43 AM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Come on fellas, get back on Keltos topic please. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-09-09, 12:27 PM	#2
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Quite a lousy view of the world on the last mission of your life, even if you miss, you are still dead. The fate of Kaiten pilots that failed to hit was not death by explosion, but instead death by implosion, or worse, crushed inside the "hull" of the kaiten, as the thing sank into the depths. Pretty disgusting that a government could drive its kids to do such really.