Obama's Foreign Relations

Aramike · 03-06-09, 05:37 PM

Is it just me, or does it seem that at least weekly we hear a story about the administration bumbling over a meeting with foreign leaders. First the PM Brown incident, and now this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...ercharge-ties/

Is there ANYONE left in the State Department who pays any attention to detail? While, thus far, there are only minor flubs but this is certainly not a reassuring sign...

Add to these a Vice President who can't open his mouth without the words just haphazardly falling out, I'm thinking we should start being worried.

Overboard · 03-06-09, 05:53 PM

I'm not sure but maby there just trying to figure out what the hell is going on,
Or maby there just a little scared to take on the former governments crap.
Anyways only time will tell "give them some" and try not to be to quick in judgement....This is what we have like it or not.

Not that any thing i said made any sence.. whitch it did not sorry.

Enigma · 03-06-09, 06:35 PM

I think this is not news, of any importance, nor represents any serious lacking of attention to detail by the state department, for chrissakes...

Aramike · 03-06-09, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

I think this is not news, of any importance, nor represents any serious lacking of attention to detail by the state department, for chrissakes...

Obviously you don't understand the nuances of foreign relations.

Dowly · 03-06-09, 06:52 PM

OMG OMG OMG! US IS DOOMED!

Please, tell me something new.

Or was this thread REALLY about the poor translation on Clinton's case?

Frack me. Burn in hell and so on.

Enigma · 03-06-09, 07:04 PM

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Obviously you don't understand the nuances of foreign relations.

Oh, but obviously you do!

The world hates a solitary know-it-all, Aramike.

And, Dowly, you nailed it.

CaptainHaplo · 03-06-09, 08:56 PM

Aramike isn't solitary - I am a know it all too - just we seem to know it all differently. Your comment to him - The world hates a solitary know-it-all - is rather a know-it-all statement as well - and one that I would point out is in error as your implying he is solitary - and I have confirmed he isn't.

Honestly Enigma - its ok that your and Aramike or anyone else disagrees - but is there a reason you have to resort to immature little put downs and insults instead of debating facts? I hate to sound so "republican" - but in this case you seem to prove an oft quoted statement - democrats/liberals can't argue on facts, if you face them with some they instead turn to personal attacks and belittlement instead of discussion. I guess thats the new meaning of "inclusive" and "tolerance" - your included and tolerated as long as you don't disagree with the liberal view, otherwise your demeaned and belittled instead of beaten in the "arena of ideas"

And for the record - I don't agree with "modern" republicans on alot of things - this point however I think your proving Enigma.

Also - having debated Aramike on foreign policy - he isn't without some knowledge. While he and I disagree, his views had demonstrated a familiarity of the subject that the "average" US citizen does not have. You may also have such knowledge - and if so - I encourage you to debate the points vs your current tactic.

nikimcbee · 03-07-09, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aramike

Is it just me, or does it seem that at least weekly we hear a story about the administration bumbling over a meeting with foreign leaders. First the PM Brown incident, and now this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...ercharge-ties/

Is there ANYONE left in the State Department who pays any attention to detail? While, thus far, there are only minor flubs but this is certainly not a reassuring sign...

Add to these a Vice President who can't open his mouth without the words just haphazardly falling out, I'm thinking we should start being worried.

Who said it was a mistake?

obama wants the Russian change too. He's spent all of ours

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03-06-09, 05:37 PM	#1
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Obama's Foreign Relations Is it just me, or does it seem that at least weekly we hear a story about the administration bumbling over a meeting with foreign leaders. First the PM Brown incident, and now this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...ercharge-ties/ Is there ANYONE left in the State Department who pays any attention to detail? While, thus far, there are only minor flubs but this is certainly not a reassuring sign... Add to these a Vice President who can't open his mouth without the words just haphazardly falling out, I'm thinking we should start being worried.

03-06-09, 06:35 PM	#3
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I think this is not news, of any importance, nor represents any serious lacking of attention to detail by the state department, for chrissakes... __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

03-06-09, 08:56 PM	#7
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Aramike isn't solitary - I am a know it all too - just we seem to know it all differently. Your comment to him - The world hates a solitary know-it-all - is rather a know-it-all statement as well - and one that I would point out is in error as your implying he is solitary - and I have confirmed he isn't. Honestly Enigma - its ok that your and Aramike or anyone else disagrees - but is there a reason you have to resort to immature little put downs and insults instead of debating facts? I hate to sound so "republican" - but in this case you seem to prove an oft quoted statement - democrats/liberals can't argue on facts, if you face them with some they instead turn to personal attacks and belittlement instead of discussion. I guess thats the new meaning of "inclusive" and "tolerance" - your included and tolerated as long as you don't disagree with the liberal view, otherwise your demeaned and belittled instead of beaten in the "arena of ideas" And for the record - I don't agree with "modern" republicans on alot of things - this point however I think your proving Enigma. Also - having debated Aramike on foreign policy - he isn't without some knowledge. While he and I disagree, his views had demonstrated a familiarity of the subject that the "average" US citizen does not have. You may also have such knowledge - and if so - I encourage you to debate the points vs your current tactic. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-06-09, 05:53 PM	#2
Overboard Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure but maby there just trying to figure out what the hell is going on, Or maby there just a little scared to take on the former governments crap. Anyways only time will tell "give them some" and try not to be to quick in judgement....This is what we have like it or not. Not that any thing i said made any sence.. whitch it did not sorry.

03-06-09, 06:52 PM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	OMG OMG OMG! US IS DOOMED! Please, tell me something new. Or was this thread REALLY about the poor translation on Clinton's case? Frack me. Burn in hell and so on.