RIP Rocky Mountain News 1859-2009

Enigma · 02-27-09, 06:21 PM

This a terrible shame, and a startling trend that's developing....

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(CNN) -- After nearly 150 years in business, the Rocky Mountain News published its final edition Friday, the victim of a bad economy and the Internet generation.
The Rocky Mountain News in Denver, Colorado, published its last edition Friday after 150 years.

The final front-page headline simply says: "Goodbye, Colorado."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/27/roc...ain/index.html

SteamWake · 02-27-09, 07:16 PM

Print media is dead they just dont know it yet.

There considerable bias doesent help much either.

Enigma · 02-27-09, 07:19 PM

You think that's a good or bad thing? Print media being dead that is.

Fox is doing well. So is Rush. The argument that bias hurts appears bogus. Anyway, what were you basing your accusation of bias at the Rocky Mountain news on?

150 years of "bias" before it finally got 'em!

surf_ten · 02-27-09, 07:35 PM

I was a Denver Post reader myself. Love Woody Paige's sports commentary. It's is sad news that the Rocky Mountain News is closing down. End of a legacy. I read that the Philadelphia enquirer has filed for bankruptcy as well. I would think that the newspapers would migrate to the internet and fill their subscriptions that way, though I doubt they would get their ad revenue via online. I get all my news via the Internet.

Enigma · 02-27-09, 07:46 PM

I read on the net too, but I love getting my NYT everyday.

San Fran Chronicle is in trouble, too.That would leave San Fran without a local paper! 2 major Philly publications in trouble.

Sad state of affairs.

SteamWake · 02-28-09, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

You think that's a good or bad thing? Print media being dead that is.

Fox is doing well. So is Rush. The argument that bias hurts appears bogus. Anyway, what were you basing your accusation of bias at the Rocky Mountain news on?

150 years of "bias" before it finally got 'em!

Fox and Rush arent print media.

As to the RMN being biased I will have to admit it was an assumption. When I said that I meant print media in general.

Someone put it best in that their buisness model is 'broken' and the revenue stream is drying up.

I have a good friend whom works in the advertising end of the buisness. He prepares the ads you see for car dealers and such. He tells me buisness is way off and is busy studying html and other such things so that he has something to fall back on.

Kapt Z · 02-27-09, 08:23 PM

Sad news. Hate to hear any newspaper go out of print.

UnderseaLcpl · 02-27-09, 09:20 PM

I understand that newspapers falling on hard times is sad, but I think the increasing reliance on the internet is a good thing.

Kapt Z · 02-27-09, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I understand that newspapers falling on hard times is sad, but I think the increasing reliance on the internet is a good thing.

Good or bad the internet is the future even for us 'old school' types who prefered the printed word.

Just hope the new generation knows the difference between researched and verified articles and the blogosphere.

Torplexed · 02-28-09, 01:05 AM

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is on death's door and the Seattle Times may not be far behind. The business model for newspapers is pretty much broken. The advertisers are gone and Craigslist has devastated revenues from classifieds.

I fear that for many people reliance on the internet means making a beeline for the blog or newsite they agree with and ignoring everything that conflicts with it.

Platapus · 02-28-09, 09:57 AM

Just keep in mind that paper and the internet are only communication venues.

The news, good bad or indifferent, has not stopped.

This is hardly the first time a communication venue has lost "utility" due to changing technologies.

We used to write our stuff on papyrus and blocks of stone also... but things move on.

The advantage of "old" print media was access. For many years, in many towns, the only thing you could get was the local paper or perhaps a paper from a nearby city. Hence the market for individual print media.

Limited access created a business area.

Now with the advent of not only airmail but the internet, I can get pretty much any paper in the country (if I want to pay extra) or hop onto the Internets Tubes and get news from around the world. Local news is, in many cases, published on respective webpages (all I need is the right number).

So I guess it is sad that an obsolete communication venue is going out of business. But it was also sad when the buggy factories went out of business too.

I wonder how many of these small newspapers could have stayed in business if they switched from representing the community on paper to representing the community electronically?

The attitude of "well we have always been a newspaper" may not be such a good business model in the 21st century.

For myself, I have not bought a newspaper in about 10 years. I can get more news, from more sources using the Internets Tubes than I could ever get from a newspaper.
.....

Now if I can only figure out a way to wrap a dead fish in a webpage.......

02-27-09, 07:16 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Print media is dead they just dont know it yet. There considerable bias doesent help much either. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

02-27-09, 07:19 PM	#3
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	You think that's a good or bad thing? Print media being dead that is. Fox is doing well. So is Rush. The argument that bias hurts appears bogus. Anyway, what were you basing your accusation of bias at the Rocky Mountain news on? 150 years of "bias" before it finally got 'em! __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-27-09, 07:46 PM	#5
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I read on the net too, but I love getting my NYT everyday. San Fran Chronicle is in trouble, too.That would leave San Fran without a local paper! 2 major Philly publications in trouble. Sad state of affairs. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-27-09, 09:20 PM	#8
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I understand that newspapers falling on hard times is sad, but I think the increasing reliance on the internet is a good thing. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

02-28-09, 09:57 AM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Just keep in mind that paper and the internet are only communication venues. The news, good bad or indifferent, has not stopped. This is hardly the first time a communication venue has lost "utility" due to changing technologies. We used to write our stuff on papyrus and blocks of stone also... but things move on. The advantage of "old" print media was access. For many years, in many towns, the only thing you could get was the local paper or perhaps a paper from a nearby city. Hence the market for individual print media. Limited access created a business area. Now with the advent of not only airmail but the internet, I can get pretty much any paper in the country (if I want to pay extra) or hop onto the Internets Tubes and get news from around the world. Local news is, in many cases, published on respective webpages (all I need is the right number). So I guess it is sad that an obsolete communication venue is going out of business. But it was also sad when the buggy factories went out of business too. I wonder how many of these small newspapers could have stayed in business if they switched from representing the community on paper to representing the community electronically? The attitude of "well we have always been a newspaper" may not be such a good business model in the 21st century. For myself, I have not bought a newspaper in about 10 years. I can get more news, from more sources using the Internets Tubes than I could ever get from a newspaper. ..... Now if I can only figure out a way to wrap a dead fish in a webpage....... __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-27-09, 07:35 PM	#4
surf_ten Loader Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 90 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I was a Denver Post reader myself. Love Woody Paige's sports commentary. It's is sad news that the Rocky Mountain News is closing down. End of a legacy. I read that the Philadelphia enquirer has filed for bankruptcy as well. I would think that the newspapers would migrate to the internet and fill their subscriptions that way, though I doubt they would get their ad revenue via online. I get all my news via the Internet.

02-27-09, 08:23 PM	#7
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	Sad news. Hate to hear any newspaper go out of print.

02-28-09, 01:05 AM	#10
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is on death's door and the Seattle Times may not be far behind. The business model for newspapers is pretty much broken. The advertisers are gone and Craigslist has devastated revenues from classifieds. I fear that for many people reliance on the internet means making a beeline for the blog or newsite they agree with and ignoring everything that conflicts with it.