Help restoring fatigue model

gordonmull · 02-22-09, 08:08 AM

My fatigue model seems to have gone wonky. My crew are fatiguing at over 64x TC resting up very slowly. THe last thing I did was to install WB's new type XXI mod but I checked with him and it doesn't affect the fatigue model.

Can someone point me in the direction of the files that control the model. I was just going to compare these files to the unmodded GWX ones to see what I need to do to reset it.

Or would it be possible to make a change only to the fatigue model in Commander and then uninstall it without rolling back? I dont normally use Commander because I keep mucking up my install with it.

Any help would be appreciated.

badwolf · 02-22-09, 09:59 AM

Hi gordonmull,

I think the reason your having so much trouble with SH3Commander, is that your failing to do a rollback when neccessary. I suggest in your case to set it to "Rollback automatic after exiting SH3" and read the manual.

Because of the above your original installation could have been altered permanently in other areas as well. Therefore I would do the following:-

Make sure SH3Commander has done a rollback.
Uninstall any JSGME mods.

In order of preference:-

1/. If you have a backup SH3/data then delete data folder in SH3 and paste in copy.

or

2/. Re-install your Sh3

or (try to repair)

3/.In SH3Commander - Options - Time Compression - When in 3D views (set to default 32).

...In SH3Commander - Options - Gameplay Settings - Use fatigue model (leave unticked for gamesetting).

Whatever you do, don't uninstall SH3Commander without a rollback, else this will leave permanently altered data files.

Hope this helps.

SquareSteelBar · 02-22-09, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gordonmull

...Can someone point me in the direction of the files that control the model...

It's the [FATIGUE_COEF] section in ...\data\Cfg\Basic.cfg...

gordonmull · 02-23-09, 07:54 AM

Nah this was with the auto roll-back option ticked. The last time Commander went awry I think I had changed some setting or other that GWX disagreed with. Can't remember now.

My intention was to use Commander to make the permanent change to the files - set the default GWX fatigue model and then just uninstall Cmdr without rolling back to leave the files in place. At least I can use it to set the fatigue model back to normal and comare the files.

gordonmull · 02-23-09, 07:56 AM

Quote:

It's the [FATIGUE_COEF] section in ...\data\Cfg\Basic.cfg...

Fantastic. Just what I was looking for. Cheers SquareSteelBar.

gordonmull · 02-25-09, 02:04 PM

Taken me a while to have a look at that.

Doesn't seem to be anything in the [FATIGUE_COEF] part that controls this. I can't see anything in the TC section on main.cfg either.

Does anyone know how I can control at what TC my men start to take fatigue?

Help!

badwolf · 02-25-09, 02:14 PM

Hi gordonmull,
In SH3Commander Time Compression "When in 3D views" if you set this to 32 then fatigue will stop at greater than 32 TC, or whatever number you want to give it.

gordonmull · 02-25-09, 02:21 PM

Thanks Badwolf.

Next time I'm in port I'll give it a try.

JScones · 02-27-09, 03:35 AM

Badwolf's advice is correct - your "When in 3D Views" TC setting is also your maximum fatigue cut off TC.

Players should exercise caution when changing this value, as most (all?) mods have developed their fatigue models with a particular setting in mind. Changing this value will most likely impact the working of the fatigue model (except, of course, if you are running a no fatigue mod).

bgey · 02-27-09, 07:37 AM

Aha!

So this is why me crew is always falling asleep on duty!

Benny

irish1958 · 02-27-09, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgey

Aha!

So this is why me crew is always falling asleep on duty!

Benny

Better check the rum supply.

bgey · 02-27-09, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

Better check the rum supply.

Good idea!

Checking...

Yep, still good! Mmm.

:rotfl:

Benny

SpeedyPC · 02-28-09, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgey

Aha!

So this is why me crew is always falling asleep on duty!

Benny

Better check the rum supply.

You don't need to check the rum supply........you need to check the women

females are far too important than Rum

02-22-09, 08:08 AM	#1
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Help restoring fatigue model My fatigue model seems to have gone wonky. My crew are fatiguing at over 64x TC resting up very slowly. THe last thing I did was to install WB's new type XXI mod but I checked with him and it doesn't affect the fatigue model. Can someone point me in the direction of the files that control the model. I was just going to compare these files to the unmodded GWX ones to see what I need to do to reset it. Or would it be possible to make a change only to the fatigue model in Commander and then uninstall it without rolling back? I dont normally use Commander because I keep mucking up my install with it. Any help would be appreciated.

02-22-09, 09:59 AM	#2
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Hi gordonmull, I think the reason your having so much trouble with SH3Commander, is that your failing to do a rollback when neccessary. I suggest in your case to set it to "Rollback automatic after exiting SH3" and read the manual. Because of the above your original installation could have been altered permanently in other areas as well. Therefore I would do the following:- Make sure SH3Commander has done a rollback. Uninstall any JSGME mods. In order of preference:- 1/. If you have a backup SH3/data then delete data folder in SH3 and paste in copy. or 2/. Re-install your Sh3 or (try to repair) 3/.In SH3Commander - Options - Time Compression - When in 3D views (set to default 32). ...In SH3Commander - Options - Gameplay Settings - Use fatigue model (leave unticked for gamesetting). Whatever you do, don't uninstall SH3Commander without a rollback, else this will leave permanently altered data files. Hope this helps.

02-23-09, 07:54 AM	#4
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Nah this was with the auto roll-back option ticked. The last time Commander went awry I think I had changed some setting or other that GWX disagreed with. Can't remember now. My intention was to use Commander to make the permanent change to the files - set the default GWX fatigue model and then just uninstall Cmdr without rolling back to leave the files in place. At least I can use it to set the fatigue model back to normal and comare the files.

02-25-09, 02:04 PM	#6
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Taken me a while to have a look at that. Doesn't seem to be anything in the [FATIGUE_COEF] part that controls this. I can't see anything in the TC section on main.cfg either. Does anyone know how I can control at what TC my men start to take fatigue? Help!

02-25-09, 02:14 PM	#7
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Hi gordonmull, In SH3Commander Time Compression "When in 3D views" if you set this to 32 then fatigue will stop at greater than 32 TC, or whatever number you want to give it.

02-25-09, 02:21 PM	#8
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Thanks Badwolf. Next time I'm in port I'll give it a try.

02-27-09, 03:35 AM	#9
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Badwolf's advice is correct - your "When in 3D Views" TC setting is also your maximum fatigue cut off TC. Players should exercise caution when changing this value, as most (all?) mods have developed their fatigue models with a particular setting in mind. Changing this value will most likely impact the working of the fatigue model (except, of course, if you are running a no fatigue mod).

02-27-09, 07:37 AM	#10
bgey Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 57 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Aha! So this is why me crew is always falling asleep on duty! Benny