Our new sub

baggygreen · 02-19-09, 11:00 PM

http://informationdissemination.blog...own-under.html

Interesting reading.

I've a friend in DMO who obviously can't confirm nor deny anything, however I've heard there are rumblings that the next Aussie boat will not only be of indigenous design but will represent a huge leap forward in our naval capability. VSLM tubes, UUVs, AIP, combined with a similar suite of electronics and sensors to the Virginia class, will be an enormous strategic jump for our nation.

Rumours are also beginning to float around that the US will use the design as a base for their own AIP subs.

Any thoughts? I'm fascinated by it myself, its exciting to see imo.

Platapus · 02-19-09, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

I've a friend in DMO who obviously can't confirm nor deny anything,

Perhaps we should all follow your friend's lead on this?

baggygreen · 02-19-09, 11:44 PM

At the moment it is all speculation and rumour, at the very least until the white paper is released. Then another (projected) 15 years until we'll see a completed vessel, provided everything moves smoothly. The reason I mentioned my mate was that speaking with him reminded me to look into it, not because anything was said

TarJak · 02-20-09, 02:39 AM

Interesting read. Would be interesting to see what they do if they decide on a local design, in terms of powerplant, strike packages, systems etc.

Hopefully it's not a camel.

UnderseaLcpl · 02-20-09, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

I've a friend in DMO who obviously can't confirm nor deny anything,

Perhaps we should all follow your friend's lead on this?

To hell with that. The Chinese don't pay me just to sit around and shoot the breeze. Let's hear some details.

Frame57 · 02-20-09, 07:43 AM

Greg Combet discussed this with the US Submarine league. The project is called SEA 1000. The design work has to be finished and on paper by 2012. The combat systems are all that will have US consulted input. Probably will be built in Adelaide. The Submarine Institute of Australia can probably give you more details as time goes by. From what I gather the boat will be built upon the Collins class technology already being used as far as the boats over all hull design and propulsion is concerned. I am sure there will be some neat changes though to incorporate some other VLS concerns. They keep talking about having an expanded range submarine but refuse to go with nuclear power???

baggygreen · 02-20-09, 08:10 AM

Blame the greenies.

There is such an enormous fear of nuke power here, spread by the uninformed.

Silly.

Happy Times · 02-20-09, 08:23 AM

Can the sub experts explain why Germany and Sweden where not mentioned in this story in past or present terms?

bookworm_020 · 02-21-09, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

Blame the greenies.

There is such an enormous fear of nuke power here, spread by the uninformed.

Silly.

Getting enough qualified crew to run a nuc boat would be difficult.

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I've heard they're going to go nuclear and buy our old Swiftsure class boats

After seeing how the Canadians went with the Diesel subs you guys sold them and the reports on how you treated them, thanks, but no thanks!

IT will be interesting to see how many subs they are talking about and the fact they are VLS equiped will raise some concerns with other navies in the region.

02-19-09, 11:00 PM	#1
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Our new sub http://informationdissemination.blog...own-under.html Interesting reading. I've a friend in DMO who obviously can't confirm nor deny anything, however I've heard there are rumblings that the next Aussie boat will not only be of indigenous design but will represent a huge leap forward in our naval capability. VSLM tubes, UUVs, AIP, combined with a similar suite of electronics and sensors to the Virginia class, will be an enormous strategic jump for our nation. Rumours are also beginning to float around that the US will use the design as a base for their own AIP subs. Any thoughts? I'm fascinated by it myself, its exciting to see imo.

02-20-09, 07:43 AM	#6
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Greg Combet discussed this with the US Submarine league. The project is called SEA 1000. The design work has to be finished and on paper by 2012. The combat systems are all that will have US consulted input. Probably will be built in Adelaide. The Submarine Institute of Australia can probably give you more details as time goes by. From what I gather the boat will be built upon the Collins class technology already being used as far as the boats over all hull design and propulsion is concerned. I am sure there will be some neat changes though to incorporate some other VLS concerns. They keep talking about having an expanded range submarine but refuse to go with nuclear power??? __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

02-20-09, 08:23 AM	#8
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Can the sub experts explain why Germany and Sweden where not mentioned in this story in past or present terms? __________________

02-19-09, 11:44 PM	#3
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	At the moment it is all speculation and rumour, at the very least until the white paper is released. Then another (projected) 15 years until we'll see a completed vessel, provided everything moves smoothly. The reason I mentioned my mate was that speaking with him reminded me to look into it, not because anything was said

02-20-09, 02:39 AM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Interesting read. Would be interesting to see what they do if they decide on a local design, in terms of powerplant, strike packages, systems etc. Hopefully it's not a camel.

02-20-09, 08:10 AM	#7
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Blame the greenies. There is such an enormous fear of nuke power here, spread by the uninformed. Silly.