Manual Transmission question.

Spike88 · 02-18-09, 06:03 PM

I'm planning on getting a manual mustang in the next 3-5 years. When funds allow. The only problem is I don't know how to drive manual. I'm wondering if I should just buy a POS car for 2-3 thousand, and just practice manual in that. Or wait until I can afford the car and risk killing my clutch. Opinions.

Edit: As a side note depending on the exact car, a clutch for most of the newer mustangs runs from 200-500. Which is cheaper, but I'd have to have someone put it in which could run up to 1 thousand and above.

Fr8monkey · 02-18-09, 06:08 PM

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

XabbaRus · 02-18-09, 06:14 PM

Manuals are easy.

the trickiest bit at the beginning is pulling away in first and more importantly trickling along in 1st or reversing. Learning how to control the speed of the car with the clutch.

why don't you go get a few lessons.

When learning to trickling on the clutch just remember that the clutch controls your speed not the revs. Get it right and you can have your engine howling away but be inching along. Of course not recommended for long periods or you'll burn your clutch.

The only thing is if you are used to an automatic don't forget to put your clutch in when you stop...

Rockstar · 02-18-09, 06:16 PM

If you plan on taking it to the track maybe a manual is for you. But to use one effeciently and effectivley takes alot of practice and I don't think you'll want to take your brand new pony anywhere other than to show it. IMO, it's well worth the extra bucks to get an automatic. I lived in Miami, you will appreciate an automatic waaay more than a manual with all the start and stop traffic associated with city driving. Highway makes no difference as you won't be shifting gears all that much anyways.

Now days it's hard to beat a automatic off the line if thats what you're thinking of, unless you're good at a manual the other guy will leave you behind chokin on dust.

I took out a perfectly good automatic once and threw in a B&M manual-automatic with transmission brake and set up an independent front wheel brake system. I could rev up those RPM's, let go the tranny brake and with the front wheels locked those back ones would smoke for all they was worth. Release the front brakes and away I went

Course I'd burn a transmission or two up every few months

Fr8monkey · 02-18-09, 06:28 PM

The hardest part of stick is starting from a stop on a hill.

One plus of Stick over Auto. is you can push start on a dead battery!

Chad · 02-18-09, 06:28 PM

My first car was an automatic, but my last 2 have been manual transmissions. Being a young driver, I think they both have their pro's and cons..

For instance, driving a manual will get guy appeal, but when you're driving you can't hold your girls hands if you're shifting a lot. UNLESS, you're sweet and romantic like me and place their hand on the stick and shift while their hand is on it making it feel like they're important. You've got to be a lot more cautious while driving a stick too, because as Xabba mentioned, you've got to press in on the clutch when coming to a stop.

Most of today's cars are pretty good when it comes to clutch strength. My car was almost 12 years old when I sold it and the clutch was still as good as day 1. The car I own now I haven't noticed anything except when starting it, I have to press it all the way to the floor, which could just be a manufactor thing.

I learned to drive a manual actually from being grown up on tractors, four wheelers, and dirt bikes. It's a little bit different using your feet than a couple of fingers, but the principle is the same.

Spike88 · 02-18-09, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

Actually I heard that Rental places don't have manuals anymore. How true this is I dont know.

@Rockstar: I actually live in Cutler Bay which isn't really that stop and go, and I hardly go into downtown. I could see how it'd be a problem on the side streets but most of the time I'm either on the turnpike doing 70+ or US1 doing 40+. And I've always wanted to get a manual car. As for my job, I'm becoming a police officer so all I need to do to get to work is get into my squad car.

@Fr8monkey. There aren't any hills in Miami :P

Another reason I want a manual car is because I plan on getting a harley eventually.

AVGWarhawk · 02-18-09, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

I think he is onto something here

Drive it like a rental car on spring break

Actually, it is very easy. First thing you do is look at how a manual tranny works. What the clutch does. Once you understand what you are doing while pressing the clutch pedal, you will the picture this in your mind as you try out a manual tranny car. Also, just go to a used car lot and tell them you want to test drive any old car with the manual in it. These days, dealers will hand over the keys to any car you want.

Enigma · 02-18-09, 07:24 PM

It's way easy. The rental car idea is a good one.

I learned in a 6 wheel dump truck!

Spike88 · 02-18-09, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

I think he is onto something here

Drive it like a rental car on spring break

Actually, it is very easy. First thing you do is look at how a manual tranny works. What the clutch does. Once you understand what you are doing while pressing the clutch pedal, you will the picture this in your mind as you try out a manual tranny car. Also, just go to a used car lot and tell them you want to test drive any old car with the manual in it. These days, dealers will hand over the keys to any car you want.

LOL. Totally kill the clutch and leave. I understand the workings and how to do it I just need to actually do it. Im still a fairly new driver, been about two years of driving, and I've had my license for about under a year. thats why now is a good time to learn in my opinion.

StarFox · 02-18-09, 08:20 PM

$2000?

Hell, go by an old Subaru station wagon for a few hundred bucks, and learn with that! They are indestructible for the most part. And easy to learn with.

I drive a BMW now, and I must say learning on my old Subaru helped. It was a great first car for me. But with no power steering, no power windows, no heat, no AC, not enough power to charge my phone, I must say upgrading to my 86' BMW 535i was worth it.

I would start there. They are good reliable cars, and easy to learn. They can take the beating

I taught my Girlfriend on my BMW, and I must say, it seemed far easier when I learned with the Subaru

AVGWarhawk · 02-18-09, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

I think he is onto something here

Drive it like a rental car on spring break

Actually, it is very easy. First thing you do is look at how a manual tranny works. What the clutch does. Once you understand what you are doing while pressing the clutch pedal, you will the picture this in your mind as you try out a manual tranny car. Also, just go to a used car lot and tell them you want to test drive any old car with the manual in it. These days, dealers will hand over the keys to any car you want.

LOL. Totally kill the clutch and leave. I understand the workings and how to do it I just need to actually do it. Im still a fairly new driver, been about two years of driving, and I've had my license for about under a year. thats why now is a good time to learn in my opinion.

It is a whole lot easier than you think. Look, my bro-in-law wanted a Jeep. He has no clutch experience. We went to the dealer and he drove the jeep...grinding and all

. Heck, I took it around the corner and let him have at it on the way back. He managed. You can to

You might find you are a natural at it.

Spike88 · 02-18-09, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by Spike88

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

I think he is onto something here

Drive it like a rental car on spring break

Actually, it is very easy. First thing you do is look at how a manual tranny works. What the clutch does. Once you understand what you are doing while pressing the clutch pedal, you will the picture this in your mind as you try out a manual tranny car. Also, just go to a used car lot and tell them you want to test drive any old car with the manual in it. These days, dealers will hand over the keys to any car you want.

LOL. Totally kill the clutch and leave. I understand the workings and how to do it I just need to actually do it. Im still a fairly new driver, been about two years of driving, and I've had my license for about under a year. thats why now is a good time to learn in my opinion.

It is a whole lot easier than you think. Look, my bro-in-law wanted a Jeep. He has no clutch experience. We went to the dealer and he drove the jeep...grinding and all

. Heck, I took it around the corner and let him have at it on the way back. He managed. You can to

You might find you are a natural at it.

Thats what I was thinking. Having either of my parents who both know how to drive take me to a nearby parking lot just so I can get used to it.

Since I dont know anyone else who knows how to drive stick. :P

Falkirion · 02-18-09, 10:55 PM

Get some lessons in a manual car first, once you've got the basics down take a few moer to get a complete feel for driving completely in manual.

I've been driving manual for the better part of 4 years, and I hate driving auto cars as a result. Manual cars are just made for having more fun in. Handbrake starts, double clutching, burnouts, doughnuts, they're all more fun in manual.

Fr8monkey · 02-18-09, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks.

Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops.

I think he is onto something here

Drive it like a rental car on spring break

Actually, it is very easy. First thing you do is look at how a manual tranny works. What the clutch does. Once you understand what you are doing while pressing the clutch pedal, you will the picture this in your mind as you try out a manual tranny car. Also, just go to a used car lot and tell them you want to test drive any old car with the manual in it. These days, dealers will hand over the keys to any car you want.

LOL. Totally kill the clutch and leave. I understand the workings and how to do it I just need to actually do it. Im still a fairly new driver, been about two years of driving, and I've had my license for about under a year. thats why now is a good time to learn in my opinion.

Thats why you get a rental with full insurance!! Stick driving sounds more intimidating than it really is.

@ Enigma.. I learned on a 1936 crank start tractor!!! :rotfl:

02-18-09, 06:03 PM	#1
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Manual Transmission question. I'm planning on getting a manual mustang in the next 3-5 years. When funds allow. The only problem is I don't know how to drive manual. I'm wondering if I should just buy a POS car for 2-3 thousand, and just practice manual in that. Or wait until I can afford the car and risk killing my clutch. Opinions. Edit: As a side note depending on the exact car, a clutch for most of the newer mustangs runs from 200-500. Which is cheaper, but I'd have to have someone put it in which could run up to 1 thousand and above.

02-18-09, 06:08 PM	#2
Fr8monkey Captain Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 518 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I'd rent a manual Transmission car. Cheap and Insurance will cover your misteaks. Easy to learn 1 - 2 hours tops. __________________ NASA's budget in 2011... $19 billion. Result: Hi-resolution images from 127 million miles away. AT&T's budget in 2011... $20 billion. Result: Still can't get any signal from my bathroom.

02-18-09, 06:14 PM	#3
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Manuals are easy. the trickiest bit at the beginning is pulling away in first and more importantly trickling along in 1st or reversing. Learning how to control the speed of the car with the clutch. why don't you go get a few lessons. When learning to trickling on the clutch just remember that the clutch controls your speed not the revs. Get it right and you can have your engine howling away but be inching along. Of course not recommended for long periods or you'll burn your clutch. The only thing is if you are used to an automatic don't forget to put your clutch in when you stop... __________________

02-18-09, 06:16 PM	#4
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If you plan on taking it to the track maybe a manual is for you. But to use one effeciently and effectivley takes alot of practice and I don't think you'll want to take your brand new pony anywhere other than to show it. IMO, it's well worth the extra bucks to get an automatic. I lived in Miami, you will appreciate an automatic waaay more than a manual with all the start and stop traffic associated with city driving. Highway makes no difference as you won't be shifting gears all that much anyways. Now days it's hard to beat a automatic off the line if thats what you're thinking of, unless you're good at a manual the other guy will leave you behind chokin on dust. I took out a perfectly good automatic once and threw in a B&M manual-automatic with transmission brake and set up an independent front wheel brake system. I could rev up those RPM's, let go the tranny brake and with the front wheels locked those back ones would smoke for all they was worth. Release the front brakes and away I went Course I'd burn a transmission or two up every few months Last edited by Rockstar; 02-18-09 at 11:37 PM.

02-18-09, 06:28 PM	#5
Fr8monkey Captain Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 518 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The hardest part of stick is starting from a stop on a hill. One plus of Stick over Auto. is you can push start on a dead battery! __________________ NASA's budget in 2011... $19 billion. Result: Hi-resolution images from 127 million miles away. AT&T's budget in 2011... $20 billion. Result: Still can't get any signal from my bathroom.

02-18-09, 06:28 PM	#6
Chad ACE Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,274 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	My first car was an automatic, but my last 2 have been manual transmissions. Being a young driver, I think they both have their pro's and cons.. For instance, driving a manual will get guy appeal, but when you're driving you can't hold your girls hands if you're shifting a lot. UNLESS, you're sweet and romantic like me and place their hand on the stick and shift while their hand is on it making it feel like they're important. You've got to be a lot more cautious while driving a stick too, because as Xabba mentioned, you've got to press in on the clutch when coming to a stop. Most of today's cars are pretty good when it comes to clutch strength. My car was almost 12 years old when I sold it and the clutch was still as good as day 1. The car I own now I haven't noticed anything except when starting it, I have to press it all the way to the floor, which could just be a manufactor thing. I learned to drive a manual actually from being grown up on tractors, four wheelers, and dirt bikes. It's a little bit different using your feet than a couple of fingers, but the principle is the same. __________________

02-18-09, 07:24 PM	#9
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	It's way easy. The rental car idea is a good one. I learned in a 6 wheel dump truck! __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-18-09, 08:20 PM	#11
StarFox Engineer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 216 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	$2000? Hell, go by an old Subaru station wagon for a few hundred bucks, and learn with that! They are indestructible for the most part. And easy to learn with. I drive a BMW now, and I must say learning on my old Subaru helped. It was a great first car for me. But with no power steering, no power windows, no heat, no AC, not enough power to charge my phone, I must say upgrading to my 86' BMW 535i was worth it. I would start there. They are good reliable cars, and easy to learn. They can take the beating I taught my Girlfriend on my BMW, and I must say, it seemed far easier when I learned with the Subaru __________________ Devoted fan of the SS United States, America's Flagship! I dream of her second life....

02-18-09, 10:55 PM	#14
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Get some lessons in a manual car first, once you've got the basics down take a few moer to get a complete feel for driving completely in manual. I've been driving manual for the better part of 4 years, and I hate driving auto cars as a result. Manual cars are just made for having more fun in. Handbrake starts, double clutching, burnouts, doughnuts, they're all more fun in manual.