The 'fairness' doctrine...

SteamWake · 02-06-09, 01:05 PM

The march towards socialisim continues.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88113

BTW keep in mind this woman's husband was the founder of the now defunct "Air America".

UnderseaLcpl · 02-06-09, 01:23 PM

Words fail me.

FIREWALL · 02-06-09, 02:03 PM

Very interesting article. Food for thought.

Zachstar · 02-06-09, 03:10 PM

So you call the years we had it "socialist" years?

Yall need new words at best. A complete education at worst.

We need something new just to clean the damn cobwebs out of AM radio. Unless you are a nutjob there is just no entertainment on AM anymore.

Unless you are talking about one of these rare stations that still play Phil Hendrie.

AVGWarhawk · 02-06-09, 03:22 PM

I listen to AM all the time Zach. It is very entertaining and informative listening to Ron Smith and C4 on 1090 here in Baltimore. I really do not need to listen to the latest hip-hop song or what is happening on American Idol.

I guess I'm just a nut job.

AVGWarhawk · 02-06-09, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Words fail me.

Exactly what this act is about.

SteamWake · 02-06-09, 03:34 PM

Thats the root of the 'problem' is that sure you can (and have) put liberal programming on the AM band. But their target audiance are listening to FM or XM rock, pop, shock, stuff.

There really is not an audiance for programing like Air America hence its failure.

I dont get it its not like there arent already alternative programming out there. NPR comes to mind not to mention the internet and media outlets like CNN.

But hey if you dont like the content of AM conservative radio no one is holding a gun to your head saying "Listen to this or die".

People listen to Rush and his counterparts because they choose to do so. In large numbers no less.

Freedom is about choice and as I see it there are plenty of choices out there.

It just smacks of if you cant compete... silence the competition.

Zachstar · 02-06-09, 03:40 PM

How is it silence if half of the viewpoint has to be conservative. And even that seems to have more entertainment value than some political value. Watch that idiotic back and forth on Hannity and Colmes and you see how powerful it supposedly is.. Not

Will it pass? Hell no..

As for who listens to AM radio. What happens when times move on? When the younger generations used to computers and such get up there? Somthing tells me they will want to play with old operating systems like windows 7 rather than listen to an outdated signal format. You know what that spells? How does digital AM grab you?

You don't make AM atleast halfway entertaining and something other than nutjobs on both sides and before you know it the FCC will be selling the band.

SteamWake · 02-06-09, 04:02 PM

Just a little tech note... AM cannot go 'digital' due to its type of propigation (Amplitude Modulation) you simply cant modulate the amplitude fast enough. It (AM) is indeed a dying mode.

AM is actually the least efficent type of propigation around not to mention the spectrum they are 'locked' into sucks. FM being the second least efficent. Single side band or SSB beats them both hands down but can sound like donald duck.

Aramike · 02-06-09, 04:37 PM

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How is it silence if half of the viewpoint has to be conservative.

It is silencing them because radio stations are in BUSINESS. To force them to change the very structure of what they've find appeals to their audience effectively silences them.

We've all seen how successful liberal talk radio is, right?

In any case, a free society doesn't have governments telling its citizens how to present opinions. This entire concept should sicken every American.

Platapus · 02-06-09, 06:04 PM

This is my idea of a Fair Deal

Quote:

When I say I believe in a square deal i do not mean ... to give every man the best hand. If the cards do not come to any man, or if they do come, and he has not got the power to play them, that is his affair. All I mean is that there shall be no crookedness in the dealing.

Theodore Roosevelt

surf_ten · 02-06-09, 09:02 PM

I guess than it would be fair to have Rush Limbuagh share equal time on msnbc opposite Keith Olbermann. However the fairness doctrine it a oxymoron and it's real purpose is to surppress the views of the conservative speakers. It seems to me that many liberal democrats only believe in freedom of speech when it applies to their worldview. Anything contrary to their worldview is normally classified as narrowminded, racist, war mongering, hate speech.

Thomen · 02-06-09, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by surf_ten

I guess than it would be fair to have Rush Limbuagh share equal time on msnbc opposite Keith Olbermann. However the fairness doctrine it a oxymoron and it's real purpose is to surppress the views of the conservative speakers. It seems to me that many liberal democrats only believe in freedom of speech when it applies to their worldview. Anything contrary to their worldview is normally classified as narrowminded, racist, war mongering, hate speech.

Well, the 'Fairness Doctrine" would only apply to Radio, AFAIK.

SteamWake · 02-06-09, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomen

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Originally Posted by surf_ten

I guess than it would be fair to have Rush Limbuagh share equal time on msnbc opposite Keith Olbermann. However the fairness doctrine it a oxymoron and it's real purpose is to surppress the views of the conservative speakers. It seems to me that many liberal democrats only believe in freedom of speech when it applies to their worldview. Anything contrary to their worldview is normally classified as narrowminded, racist, war mongering, hate speech.

Well, the 'Fairness Doctrine" would only apply to Radio, AFAIK.

Zachstar · 02-06-09, 10:43 PM

Yes Air America became a joke. before it switched hands it had the greats on air but afterwards more and more left.

These days "progressive" Talk radio is much better. Mostly a string of moderates and left Christians.

02-06-09, 01:05 PM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The 'fairness' doctrine... The march towards socialisim continues. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88113 BTW keep in mind this woman's husband was the founder of the now defunct "Air America".

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Very interesting article. Food for thought. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-06-09, 03:10 PM	#4
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	So you call the years we had it "socialist" years? Yall need new words at best. A complete education at worst. We need something new just to clean the damn cobwebs out of AM radio. Unless you are a nutjob there is just no entertainment on AM anymore. Unless you are talking about one of these rare stations that still play Phil Hendrie. __________________

02-06-09, 03:22 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I listen to AM all the time Zach. It is very entertaining and informative listening to Ron Smith and C4 on 1090 here in Baltimore. I really do not need to listen to the latest hip-hop song or what is happening on American Idol. I guess I'm just a nut job. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-06-09, 03:34 PM	#7
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thats the root of the 'problem' is that sure you can (and have) put liberal programming on the AM band. But their target audiance are listening to FM or XM rock, pop, shock, stuff. There really is not an audiance for programing like Air America hence its failure. I dont get it its not like there arent already alternative programming out there. NPR comes to mind not to mention the internet and media outlets like CNN. But hey if you dont like the content of AM conservative radio no one is holding a gun to your head saying "Listen to this or die". People listen to Rush and his counterparts because they choose to do so. In large numbers no less. Freedom is about choice and as I see it there are plenty of choices out there. It just smacks of if you cant compete... silence the competition.

02-06-09, 03:40 PM	#8
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	How is it silence if half of the viewpoint has to be conservative. And even that seems to have more entertainment value than some political value. Watch that idiotic back and forth on Hannity and Colmes and you see how powerful it supposedly is.. Not Will it pass? Hell no.. As for who listens to AM radio. What happens when times move on? When the younger generations used to computers and such get up there? Somthing tells me they will want to play with old operating systems like windows 7 rather than listen to an outdated signal format. You know what that spells? How does digital AM grab you? You don't make AM atleast halfway entertaining and something other than nutjobs on both sides and before you know it the FCC will be selling the band. __________________

02-06-09, 04:02 PM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just a little tech note... AM cannot go 'digital' due to its type of propigation (Amplitude Modulation) you simply cant modulate the amplitude fast enough. It (AM) is indeed a dying mode. AM is actually the least efficent type of propigation around not to mention the spectrum they are 'locked' into sucks. FM being the second least efficent. Single side band or SSB beats them both hands down but can sound like donald duck.

02-06-09, 09:02 PM	#12
surf_ten Loader Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 90 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I guess than it would be fair to have Rush Limbuagh share equal time on msnbc opposite Keith Olbermann. However the fairness doctrine it a oxymoron and it's real purpose is to surppress the views of the conservative speakers. It seems to me that many liberal democrats only believe in freedom of speech when it applies to their worldview. Anything contrary to their worldview is normally classified as narrowminded, racist, war mongering, hate speech.

02-06-09, 10:43 PM	#15
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Yes Air America became a joke. before it switched hands it had the greats on air but afterwards more and more left. These days "progressive" Talk radio is much better. Mostly a string of moderates and left Christians. __________________